Thursday, March 26, 2015

Was German Co-Pilot Andrea Gunter Lubitz Committing Jihad?

Nadene Goldfoot                                                                  
Andreas Gunter Lubitz sitting by the San Francisco Golden Gate  Bridge

On March 24, announced today,  a 27-28 year old German co-pilot,  Andreas Gunter Lubitz, was alone in the pilot's cabin when his Germanwings Airbus A320 plowed into the French Alps while the locked-out pilot was banging on the locked door.  All 150 persons were killed and the plane was minced into little teeny pieces.  The black box voice recorder from the plane was found and it was discovered that he had locked the pilot out of the cabin. "FlightRadar24, an online air tracking service that uses satellite data, said it had found evidence the autopilot was abruptly switched from cruising height to maintain an altitude of just 100 feet, the lowest possible setting."
                                                                             

Of the 150, one  Israeli,  Eyal Baum,  39 years old  from Hod Hasharon was on board the plane.   That was reported on CNN and Haaretz.

"A delegation from the ultra-Orthodox Jewish movement Chabad is traveling to the crash site to help with the recovery 

efforts, Rabbi Eliyahu Attia told Army Radio.  Baum  was co-founder of Bites, "Bites is a participation platform that allows anyone to discover the opinions and wisdom of the crowd by creating engaging polls and trivia questions."

 It appears that Andreas did this on purpose, so it was a mass murder.  There was nothing reported so far to tell why on TV news.
                                                                           

Pamela Geller found this on facebook about him.  Germanwings co-pilot Andreas Lubitz praised on Facebook: " Our holy martyr Lubitz died for our prophet."  Yet the White House was Johnny on the spot to announce to all that this was not a terrorist act before there were 5 minutes into checking on it. When I went into facebook and on his page, it was not there.

Andreas grew up in Montabaur, Germany.  He trained in Bremen, Germany at the Lufthansa Flight Training School in 2008, and in Arizona, USA. "Andreas Lubitz, 27, was a German citizen and started working for Germanwings' parent companyLufthansa at a flight training center outside of Phoenix in 2008, company officials said.


The facility, called Airline Training Center Arizona, was owned by Lufthansa and is used by its pilots in addition to other training locations in Germany, Switzerland and Austria, officials said."  Maybe this was when he went to San Francisco and had his picture taken by the Golden Gate.  

 Breman is the home of  Masjidu-1-Furqan Mosque which was raided  by the police in December, 2014.  That was only 3 months and 20 days ago.  It was raided because it was more of a Salafist mosque, and the Germans accused them of promoting ISIS values and encouraging young Muslims in the city to travel to Syria and Iraq and join the ranks of the group along with Al-Nusra Front.

Now, the thought is that since no one seemed to know of Andreas's religion or if he had any, and it could have been Catholic being Germany has long been a Catholic country, somehow during his training stint in Breman, Andreas might have come in contact with friendly Muslims and had converted.   So far the mosque had been successful in inspiring 8 men, 7 women and 11 juveniles to travel to Syria and join IS.  Was Andreas doing his bit this way?  This would have been mass murder by suicide.

The German police have gone to his home in Dusseldorf.  He also  lived with his parents in Montabaur.  The police  say they have  had a potential breakthrough, but not a suicide note.  Montabaur is 40 miles from Bonn.   Andreas spent time in both Montabaur and Dusseldorf in a flat.

Back in 2008, Andreas's pilot training was interrupted because of mental health problems.  A friend said he was in a depression.  Airline bosses confirmed that Lubitz had taken several months off work and had to retrain to join the firm, but insisted he was 100% fit to fly and had passed all his medical tests.  They don't have any mental health testing for pilots. 1.8 million Germans are alcoholics.  The questions about pilots being alcoholics is not known.  Could this have been Lubitz's problem?

There are 7 mosques within the Dusseldorf area and 6 within the Montabaur area.  "There is an estimated number of 400,000- 500,000 people of Arab origin residing in Germany.   Most Arabs came to Germany in the 1970s, partly as Gastarbeiter from Morocco, the Turkish Province of Mardin (see: Arabs in Turkey) and Tunisia. However, the majority of Arabs are refugees of the conflicts in the Middle East, e.g. the Lebanese Civil WarPalestinian exodus and the recent Iraq War,  Libyan Civil War, and current Syrian civil war. The Arabs in Germany are not a homogenous group, because they originate from about 20 countries.

It has been said that Lubitz had a Muslim girlfriend.  It's very possible he met her at a mosque.

Resource:  http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/12/germany-police-close-mosque-for-spreading-islamic-state-ideology
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3012053/Andreas-Lubitz-Germanwings-flight-9525-French-alps-crash-French-alps-Germanwings-plane-crash-Airbus-A320-Barcelonnette.html
http://pamelageller.com/2015/03/germanwings-co-pilot-andreas-lubitz-praised-on-facebook-our-holy-martyr-lubitz-died-for-our-prophet.html/  EXCELLENT COVERAGE, PICTURES
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabs_in_Germany
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/03/26/us-france-crash-idUSKBN0MK2U020150326
http://www.haaretz.com/news/world/1.648542
CNN
http://www.hngn.com/articles/44263/20140930/german-alcoholics-drug-addicts-being-paid-beer-cigarettes-clean-streets.htm
http://news.yahoo.com/german-security-official-no-indications-germanwings-co-pilot-125040126.html
http://www.timesofisrael.com/family-of-israeli-plane-crash-victim-grieves-awaits-news/
http://abcnews.go.com/International/germanwings-crash-pilot-received-training-arizona/story?id=29923493
update: 3/27/15..1:52pm  http://www.ruthfullyyours.com/2015/03/27/german-pilot-is-he-is-a-muslim-truth-or-rumor-stay-tuned/
update: 3/30/15/12:37pm  http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/4130/islamization-germany  4.3 million Muslims in Germany

25 comments:

  1. Fake Facebook page made after the event.

    Girlfriends surname was Goldbach. Goldbach and Lubitz - Sound like Jewish names to me not that religion had anything to do with this.

    Keep peddling your fascist lies and insinuations.

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    1. Many German surnames sound Jewish and we do share some of them. Jews were in Germany early on after leaving Jerusalem's destruction by the Romans in 70 CE. My surname, originally Goldfus, is both German and Jewish.

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  2. good question nadene. though it would not surprise me if true. i'll see what the next few days reveal about this young man whose mind was obviously in a very bad state to pull off that despicable act. if is in fact a muslim jihad inspired move on his part than that is another very ugly twist added to the horror of what happened.

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  3. regarding getabrain post above. nowhere are we finding jewish people acting out horribly as these muslim jihadists are, who openly and loudly blast that theme, and the atrocious acts their religion advocates. and it is nothing new to the world. century after century of jihadist hatred has been fostered upon the world, needing no other reason than hate is what they live for....and wasting their lives and their children's lives on. hate has no glory. and is all in vain---but hate blinds--or they would see it and stop the senseless slaughter.

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  4. Right, Andre. This downing of a plane with 150 defies all logic as to why this co-pilot pulled such a thing. Why would anyone want to kill himself? The ones lately who involve others' deaths have been suicide bombers, and this is so close to it. Reports are that he wasn't depressed. Then why? He had to be affected by something to do this horrendous thing. You don't kill off 150 people over a girl friend, regardless if she were Jewish or Muslim. Not if you are normal, and the doctors say he had a reason to not be in that he was not fit to fly on Tuesday. So...guess we'll have to wait and see if a doctor's report is made known.

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  5. Getabrain; Gunter and Lubitz is very German. Both names were listed on findagrave.com in listing German sailors on submarines who had died.

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    1. Yes, Nadene. German JEWISH sailors.

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    2. You can't prove this, Whiteonewhitecrime. I tried to check this out, too, and couldn't find evidence. We didn't have too many Jewish sailors that I know of in WWI on submarines. There wouldn't have been any in WWII.

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  6. Getabrain, Jews were killed in Germany by the Nazi regime, remember? Lubitz, Hans 55487625
    b. Aug. 8, 1920 d. Apr. 10, 1943 Moltenort U-Boat Memorial
    Kiel
    Kieler Stadtkreis
    Schleswig-Holstein
    Germany
    Lubitz, Seaman Werner 57605816
    b. Nov. 13, 1923 d. Feb. 19, 1945 Moltenort U-Boat Memorial
    Kiel
    Kieler Stadtkreis
    Schleswig-Holstein
    These Lubitz sailors dying in the middle of WWII were Germans, not Jews. Same deal with Gunter.

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  7. First. as the book "Hitler's Jewish Soldiers" (by a Jewish author) points out, 150,000 part-Jews served in the Wehrmacht. Secondly, Lubitz is a classic Jewish name, as Jewish as Goldberg: http://www.europeanknightsproject.com/was-germanwings-death-pilot-a-psycho-gay-jew/ He clearly had some stereotypical Ashkenazi features, such as Mediterranean skin coloring and Baltic.Eastern European features.

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    1. Great article. Thanks for the TRUTH. He wasnt a Muslim convert but a 'chosen' one

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  8. That's strange, mugwort, being the Nazis would check to see who grandparents were and if found to be Jewish, that person was put in a camp and wound up dead. Many surnames of German origin are both Jewish or Gentile. My own surname is Goldfus and there is a line that is gentile of different Ydna than ours. How people obtained surnames is a study in itself. Italians have Ashkenazi features. In the movies, Italians play Jews and Jews play Italians. That's not proof of Lubitz's religion. Neither is his skin coloring or features you describe. To me he doesn't "Look" Jewish. What are his parents? When you get right down to it, I bet there are a lot of Germans who are walking around with segments of dna chromosomes that are from Jewish people since Jews have lived in Germany since Roman times. Though there wasn't much interaction between peoples, there was a little. But during the 1930-1940 era, if you had a parent that was Jewish, or grandparent, you were not a soldier. How did 150,000 serve in WWII? WWI, yes, there were Jewish soldiers, but not the 2nd world war.

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    1. Really? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyW_8Dl-Stk

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  9. Here's one I found on google. One parent evidently Jewish was Werner Goldberg whose father was baptized Lutheran. In 1940 following the Armistice with France, Werner was expelled from the army under Hitler's order of April 8, 1940 which stated that all 1st degree Mischlinge were to be expelled from the military. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Werner_Goldberg

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  10. Immigration records on Lubitz. Notice they are mostly Catholics. There is a family that is Jewish in Argentina. Argentina was a county where Nazis found refuge after WWII.

    Surname: LUBITZ -
    Name
    Age
    Marital
    Status
    Occupation
    Religion
    Nationality
    Ship
    Procedence
    Arrival Info
    Born in
    day/month/year - Port
    LUBITZ, BACHA 24 C SIN PROFESION CATOLICA AUSTRIACA PAMPA MARSELLA 01/07/1908 - BUENOS AIRES DESCONOCIDO
    LUBITZ, BERNARD 41 C CORDONNIER CATOLICA AUSTRIACA PAMPA MARSELLA 01/07/1908 - BUENOS AIRES DESCONOCIDO
    LUBITZ, ERMANN 28 C BACKER DESCONOCIDA ALEMANA ROSARIO HAMBURGO 06/08/1891 - BUENOS AIRES HUSCHTERLBUCH
    LUBITZ, ERNST 37 C INGENIERO PROTESTANTE ALEMANA WERRA BREMEN 02/04/1927 - BUENOS AIRES ESSEN
    LUBITZ, HELENE 24 C CASERA CATOLICA ALEMANA SIERRA MORENA BREMEN 01/04/1927 - BUENOS AIRES BRANDEMBURGO
    LUBITZ, KAETHIE 9 S SIN PROTESTANTE ALEMANA WERRA BREMEN 02/04/1927 - BUENOS AIRES ESSEN
    LUBITZ, KATHI 14 S SIN CATOLICA ALEMANA GENERAL ARTIGAS HAMBURGO 25/08/1932 - BUENOS AIRES ESSEN
    LUBITZ, MARIE 32 C SIN PROTESTANTE ALEMANA WERRA BREMEN 02/04/1927 - BUENOS AIRES ZINTEN
    LUBITZ, MARIE 37 C LABORES CATOLICA ALEMANA GENERAL ARTIGAS HAMBURGO 25/08/1932 - BUENOS AIRES ZINTEN
    LUBITZ, REIHARD 29 C TRABAJADOR PROTESTANTE ALEMANA SIERRA MORENA BREMEN 01/04/1927 - BUENOS AIRES BRANDEMBURGO
    Sebastian There are jewish families in Argentina with surname LUBITZ
    Daniel In the Jewish cemetery of La Tablada, Buenos Aires, is buried some people with this surname.

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  11. Getabrain-his 7 year girlfriend is reported to be Kathrin Goldbach-pregnant now. http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/andreas-lubitzs-girlfriend-kathrin-goldbach-5421750. They met in Montabauer, lived in Dusseldorf together past 4 years.

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  12. Update: 3/30/15 12:50pm http://www.jerusalemonline.com/news/world-news/around-the-globe/german-prosecution-co-pilot-suffered-from-suicidal-tendencies-12578; girlfriend pregnant, has another girlfriend, suicidal before becoming pilot, still doesn't explain killing 150 people because of his depression.

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  13. """Germany has long been a Catholic country, so""""

    Dude?

    Germany is equal parts Protestant, Catholic an non-affiliated.

    Catholics are 30% of the population, Protestants are 29.9% of the population and just over 30% of the population is unaffiliated with any religion.

    You see, there was this guy named Martin Luther who came along and put an end to "Germany has long been a Catholic country" centuries ago.

    Facts are your friends! Don't ignore them. You'll hurt their feelings.

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  14. """"Germany has long been a Catholic country, so"""

    Dude?

    Germany is equal parts Catholic, Protestant and unaffiliated with any religion.

    Catholics are 30% of the population, Prorestants are 29.9% of the population and just over 30% of the population is unaffiliated.

    You see, there was this German guy named Martin Luther who came along and put an end to "Germany has long been a Catholic country" centuries ago.........

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  15. Alfred, So which group went along with killing 6 million Jews? Must have been the unaffiliated. What do you think? The history of Martin Luther is most interesting.

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    1. Jews have rich tradition in pretending to die in a 6 million amounts. Even when they kill many more christians - like in Russia - you pretend to be the victim. Sick and disgusting! http://balder.org/judea/billeder-judea/Six-Million-Jews-Chicago-Tribune-July-20-1921-300.gif

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  16. Pandra, we have tons of real evidence about our 6 million who were slaughtered by Nazis. Why don't you believe this? We haven't had to pretend anything. It's you who pretend to know anything. There are many ways to validate this and have been.

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    1. Since after the Zionist movement was established the Jews started to suffer, starve or to be killed always in a 6 million amount is the evidence that there was a propaganda program to make the World believe it is necessary for the preservation of the Jewry to give them a land. For this are there tons of evidence really.: http://balder.org/judea/Six-Million-140-Occurrences-Of-The-Word-Holocaust-And-The-Number-6,000,000-Before-The-Nuremberg-Trials-Began.php As to the impossibility of 6 million Jews being killed in WW2 there is at least 10 solid evidences (not counting each Jew that survived the life in concentration camps): https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t790421/ Lies are not evidence Nadene and the Jews were always pioneers in scamming people. I know and You know. The wolf of Wall Street and Bernie Madoff can confirm it for you if you have doubts.

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  17. The history of Jews living in Germany goes way back. Remember that Germany started the 1st world war of which Jews also fought alongside other Germans. Hitler was the one who decided to do away with Jews, causing 6 million Jews to be slaughtered in a genocide. You need to stop hating us and believing all the lies told about us, Pandra VA. I don't think you are a German, but from an Arab country. Arab leaders were enamoured with Nazis and unfortunately, people like you must still be susceptible to believing such garbage. Yes, we've had our Bernie Madoff. We are humans, you know, not angels. That's one that isn't so nice; and he hurt a lot of Jews, probably more so, than other people in his greed. We Jews live with very high expectations of ourselves in being good people. How about you?

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