Nadene Goldfoot
Dzhokar Tsarnaev, a Chechen, the 19 year old Muslim terrorist born in Chechnya, Kyrgyzstan who immigrated to the USA became a USA citizen last year. He swore, "I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state or sovereignty, of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform noncombatant service in the armed forces of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law; and that I take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God."
I wonder if citizenship can be taken away by default for breaking this contract before the year is up? There should be a clause in such a case as this. Obviously the 5 years that should have acted as a time of vetting a person didn't tell much being he was so young. He must have had to wait till age 18, it looks like, which might be the law since the father didn't naturalize.
Dzhokar obviously lied by working with his brother to bomb the Boston marathon which resulted not only in 3 deaths but several others elsewhere as well as putting about 180 people in the hospital, some with horrendous injuries like missing both legs.
Both Tamerlan born 1987 and Dzhoka, born 1994 came here in 2002 under an asylum petition by their father, Anzor, who had said that he feared for his life because of his activities in Chechnya. To get here he came on a tourist visa. Now, activities such as this most likely were terrorist activities against the Russian government. Was this ever checked out? That didn't stop his two boys, ages 15 and 8, from being able to wait the appropriate 5 years and apply for American citizenship. Tamerlan was interviewed in 2011 by the FBI and then his citizenship papers were halted afterwards.
Evidently the family had moved from Chechnya to Daghestan in 2001 and lived in the city of Tokmok. From there they immigrated to the USA.
Why didn't eyebrows go up when Anzor returned to Makhachkala, Dagestan, Russia where he had sought asylum from? Dagestan is right next to Chechnya. They both were part of Khazaria long ago. Evidently he never sought out citizenship in the USA. Why didn't our government question when Tamerlan returned there in January? Tamerlan was in Dagestan for 6 months from January 2012 to June and turned in his citizenship application 6 days after his younger brother, Dzhokar had his application approved. That was a strange thing to do when you want to apply for citizenship. You're supposed to live here for 5 years. Dzhoker has only been a citizen since September 2012 for 7 months. "September 11th, in fact — Dzhoker Tzarnaev took the oath during a large ceremony held at TD Bank Garden.
Tamerlan's papers had been held up for questionable activities. Hitting his girlfriend doesn't count as it never went to court. Russia had contacted the USA about Tamerlan being a terrorist but this was not acted on by us. Evidently they couldn't find any evidence then. He had posted something on You Tube about Dagistani jihadists and a religious Chechen singer singing "Life is devoted to jihad.".
There has been found a Chechen Wahhabi cell that is funded by al Qaeda. By 2013 there were 124 people who died and 74 injured after years of violent Islamist violence there. Could Anzor have been a member of that cell?
"An applicant for citizenship must be of "good moral character," meaning that he or she cannot have committed any serious crimes, or, in some cases, even any minor ones. They have to demonstrate the ability to speak and write in English. They must pass a civics test. At that point, the applicant qualifies for citizenship"
The Tsarnaev family are Chechens. Chechens could have been displaced people transported to Chechnya in the 40's by Russia. "The term "Chechen" first occurs in Arabic sources from the 8th century. According to popular tradition, the Russian term "Chechen" comes from the name of the village of Chechen-Aul, where the Chechens defeated Russian soldiers in 1732. The word "Chechen", however, occurs in Russian sources as early as 1692 and the Russians probably derived it from the Kabardian "Shashan" The 1.7 million Chechens originated in the north Caucasus region of eastern Europe.
With such a fluid background that was undoubtedly violent for the father, these boys were able to live in the USA under the most favorable of conditions as far as the city of Boston goes. What the family life was like is another story. There is no excuse for anyone who seeks asylum to be saved and allowed to live in this great country to act violently and perform terrorist acts. Who has been influencing them to seek out such websites as they have been doing in this country?
There are about 2,500 Jews living in Kyrgyzstan today. 20,000 Jews escaping war in WWII from Russia, Ukraine and Poland fled to Kyrgyz cities and villages. The population has since dwindled. In 1989 there were 5,800 Jews. I say this because the area is predominantly Muslim today though about 1200 years ago as Khazaria it was a haven for Jews since the Royal family had converted to Judaism.
I hope our legal system takes a look at something they most likely have never been asked to swear; the oath for immigrants to become naturalized citizens. My paternal grandfather and grandmother had to take it. My maternal grandmother did, too. If you come here and want to be a citizen, you must take this oath seriously. We don't need people who intend to be terrorists.
Update: 4/23/13 Oregonian newspaper page A5: The divorced parents are now in Russia. Suleimanova is the aunt and lives in Makhachkala, the capital of Dagestan. Their extended families live in Dagestan and Chechnya. Dzhokar's mother, Zubeidat, was arrested in the US in June on charges of shoplifting. Her native village was in a mountainous region of Dagestan, a hotbed of an ultraconservative strain of Islam called Wahabbism, introduced to the Caucasus in the 1990's by preachers and teachers from Saudi Arabia. Her relatives now all live in Makhachkala and Kaspiisk. Anzor, the father, said he was a lawyer. Tamerlan had returned to the USA on July 17, 2012. He had needed to get a new Russian passport but he did not pick up his new passport after applying for it in July in Dagestan when it was ready. Supposedly that's why he had returned there.
Resource: http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=facd6db8d7e37210VgnVCM100000082ca60aRCRD&vgnextchannel=dd7ffe9dd4aa3210VgnVCM100000b92ca60aRCRD
http://fox2now.com/2013/04/19/suspects-described-as-brothers-from-russian-caucasus/
http://www.debka.com/article/22911/
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/21/us/tamerlan-tsarnaevs-citizenship-held-up-by-homeland-security.html?_r=0
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/04/19/boston-bombing-suspects-what-the-kyrgyzstan-connection-means/
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/vjw/Kyrgyzstan.html
http://abcnews.go.com/US/boston-bomb-suspects-dad-tells-son-surrender-hell/story?id=18995936
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/apr/22/tamerlan-tsarnaev-youtube-jihadist-radicalisation
Dzhokar Tsarnaev, a Chechen, the 19 year old Muslim terrorist born in Chechnya, Kyrgyzstan who immigrated to the USA became a USA citizen last year. He swore, "I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state or sovereignty, of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform noncombatant service in the armed forces of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law; and that I take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God."
I wonder if citizenship can be taken away by default for breaking this contract before the year is up? There should be a clause in such a case as this. Obviously the 5 years that should have acted as a time of vetting a person didn't tell much being he was so young. He must have had to wait till age 18, it looks like, which might be the law since the father didn't naturalize.
Dzhokar obviously lied by working with his brother to bomb the Boston marathon which resulted not only in 3 deaths but several others elsewhere as well as putting about 180 people in the hospital, some with horrendous injuries like missing both legs.
Both Tamerlan born 1987 and Dzhoka, born 1994 came here in 2002 under an asylum petition by their father, Anzor, who had said that he feared for his life because of his activities in Chechnya. To get here he came on a tourist visa. Now, activities such as this most likely were terrorist activities against the Russian government. Was this ever checked out? That didn't stop his two boys, ages 15 and 8, from being able to wait the appropriate 5 years and apply for American citizenship. Tamerlan was interviewed in 2011 by the FBI and then his citizenship papers were halted afterwards.
Evidently the family had moved from Chechnya to Daghestan in 2001 and lived in the city of Tokmok. From there they immigrated to the USA.
Why didn't eyebrows go up when Anzor returned to Makhachkala, Dagestan, Russia where he had sought asylum from? Dagestan is right next to Chechnya. They both were part of Khazaria long ago. Evidently he never sought out citizenship in the USA. Why didn't our government question when Tamerlan returned there in January? Tamerlan was in Dagestan for 6 months from January 2012 to June and turned in his citizenship application 6 days after his younger brother, Dzhokar had his application approved. That was a strange thing to do when you want to apply for citizenship. You're supposed to live here for 5 years. Dzhoker has only been a citizen since September 2012 for 7 months. "September 11th, in fact — Dzhoker Tzarnaev took the oath during a large ceremony held at TD Bank Garden.
Tamerlan's papers had been held up for questionable activities. Hitting his girlfriend doesn't count as it never went to court. Russia had contacted the USA about Tamerlan being a terrorist but this was not acted on by us. Evidently they couldn't find any evidence then. He had posted something on You Tube about Dagistani jihadists and a religious Chechen singer singing "Life is devoted to jihad.".
There has been found a Chechen Wahhabi cell that is funded by al Qaeda. By 2013 there were 124 people who died and 74 injured after years of violent Islamist violence there. Could Anzor have been a member of that cell?
"An applicant for citizenship must be of "good moral character," meaning that he or she cannot have committed any serious crimes, or, in some cases, even any minor ones. They have to demonstrate the ability to speak and write in English. They must pass a civics test. At that point, the applicant qualifies for citizenship"
The Tsarnaev family are Chechens. Chechens could have been displaced people transported to Chechnya in the 40's by Russia. "The term "Chechen" first occurs in Arabic sources from the 8th century. According to popular tradition, the Russian term "Chechen" comes from the name of the village of Chechen-Aul, where the Chechens defeated Russian soldiers in 1732. The word "Chechen", however, occurs in Russian sources as early as 1692 and the Russians probably derived it from the Kabardian "Shashan" The 1.7 million Chechens originated in the north Caucasus region of eastern Europe.
With such a fluid background that was undoubtedly violent for the father, these boys were able to live in the USA under the most favorable of conditions as far as the city of Boston goes. What the family life was like is another story. There is no excuse for anyone who seeks asylum to be saved and allowed to live in this great country to act violently and perform terrorist acts. Who has been influencing them to seek out such websites as they have been doing in this country?
There are about 2,500 Jews living in Kyrgyzstan today. 20,000 Jews escaping war in WWII from Russia, Ukraine and Poland fled to Kyrgyz cities and villages. The population has since dwindled. In 1989 there were 5,800 Jews. I say this because the area is predominantly Muslim today though about 1200 years ago as Khazaria it was a haven for Jews since the Royal family had converted to Judaism.
I hope our legal system takes a look at something they most likely have never been asked to swear; the oath for immigrants to become naturalized citizens. My paternal grandfather and grandmother had to take it. My maternal grandmother did, too. If you come here and want to be a citizen, you must take this oath seriously. We don't need people who intend to be terrorists.
Update: 4/23/13 Oregonian newspaper page A5: The divorced parents are now in Russia. Suleimanova is the aunt and lives in Makhachkala, the capital of Dagestan. Their extended families live in Dagestan and Chechnya. Dzhokar's mother, Zubeidat, was arrested in the US in June on charges of shoplifting. Her native village was in a mountainous region of Dagestan, a hotbed of an ultraconservative strain of Islam called Wahabbism, introduced to the Caucasus in the 1990's by preachers and teachers from Saudi Arabia. Her relatives now all live in Makhachkala and Kaspiisk. Anzor, the father, said he was a lawyer. Tamerlan had returned to the USA on July 17, 2012. He had needed to get a new Russian passport but he did not pick up his new passport after applying for it in July in Dagestan when it was ready. Supposedly that's why he had returned there.
Resource: http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=facd6db8d7e37210VgnVCM100000082ca60aRCRD&vgnextchannel=dd7ffe9dd4aa3210VgnVCM100000b92ca60aRCRD
http://fox2now.com/2013/04/19/suspects-described-as-brothers-from-russian-caucasus/
http://www.debka.com/article/22911/
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/21/us/tamerlan-tsarnaevs-citizenship-held-up-by-homeland-security.html?_r=0
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/04/19/boston-bombing-suspects-what-the-kyrgyzstan-connection-means/
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/vjw/Kyrgyzstan.html
http://abcnews.go.com/US/boston-bomb-suspects-dad-tells-son-surrender-hell/story?id=18995936
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/apr/22/tamerlan-tsarnaev-youtube-jihadist-radicalisation
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