Nadene Goldfoot
The problem we face today after about 70 years of being unable to solve it, is all because the Arabs of the region had been unable to accept a Jewish State in the Middle East. And G-d willing, Israel has been in existence this 2nd time around since 70 CE, for the past almost 70 years now. Arabs on either side of her, Egypt and Jordan, seem to be in acceptance as of today. Syria and Iraq are just about destroyed as nations from their own internal decisions that have nothing to do with Israel. We are left with Lebanon and others farther away from Israel, such as Iran, who still plot, using the Palestinian Arabs as their ammo, the destruction of Israel.
Proof:
If the Arabs, who had united together, had not gone to war against Israel in 1948 to block the UN partition plan, the Palestinian Arabs would have had a Palestinian state in the West Bank, Galilee and the Negev. They would now be celebrating their 69th anniversary of independence, like Israel is.
If the Arabs had not supported terrorism directed at Israeli civilians and had not provoked 6 Arab-Israeli wars, the conflict could have been settled long ago, and the Palestinian problem resolved, but it was not to be.
Like Trump just showed Israelis by telling them not to build in land they won back in the 1967 War, because he will most likely not be able to make a peace deal if they do, it shows how little the rest of the world understands this conflict. Trump is the 4th president to come to a halt in a row of presidents, to plan to make a deal as the arbitrator. Obama wanted Israel to go back to the 67 lines which were temporary lines, not permanent ones. Nobody really does their homework who should.
From 1948 to 1967, the West Bank (Judea and Samaria, please) and Gaza were under Arab rule. NO JEWISH SETTLEMENTS (VILLAGES, TOWNS, CITIES, PLEASE) existed there. That didn't matter. The Arabs never set up a Palestinian state while they had the opportunity.
Instead, Gaza was occupied by Egypt, and Judea and Samaria by Jordan. No demands for a West Bank/Gaza independent state were heard until......until Israel took control of these areas in the Six-Day War of 1967.
Palestinians have been unable to solve their own problem of having a state or not having a state; leaving or staying. They were pawns in 1948 when Arab leaders of the area they lived in told them to leave the area temporarily so that the Arab army would have room to maneuver and take the newly announced state of Israel. They've remained as pawns of a chess game between the Arabs and the Jews.
The Arab states have always held the key to solving the Palestinian problem and look who has come up with a solution; Saudi Arabia. That's what the UN seems to be following right now. The Palestinian refugees, refugees BECAUSE they obeyed the Arab leaders in leaving, could long ago have been resettled among their own people in Arab lands which extend over 5 million square miles. These Arab nations have the land and money to rehabilitate the Palestinian refugees.
Israel, with but a fraction of Arab land and wealth (remember-the Arabs have the land with oil, none in Israel) absorbed 820,000 Jews who were driven from Arab countries in the 1950s.
The Arabs' refusal to do the same with the Palestinians shows they are more interested in using the refugees as a political weapon against Israel than they are in truly solving the problem, with the exception of Jordan.
Palestine Created Already
Jordan's king Abdullah, named for his famous ggrandfather of Saudi Arabia, married a Palestinian woman, now Queen Rania. "Rania Al-Yassin was born in Kuwait, to Palestinian parents Faisal Sedki al-Yassin and Ilham Yassin from Tulkarm." Her parents were from the Judea-Samaria area in the Tulkarm Governorate with Israel's Netanya to the west of it. When his father, Hussein, was confronted with the situation, Jordan was attacked by the Palestinians and they had their Black September War. Actually, Jordan didn't want to take in Palestinians. They had created their state for the Hashemite tribe only and didn't want to mix with others, but wound up taking in the Palestinians that survived their attack. So right here is a state of Palestinians. They may be more populous than the Hashemites today. Hashemite tribe is from Saudi Arabia and the king's line of ancestors claim to go back to Mohammad. To me so far, they have shown much more wisdom in getting along fairly well with Israel than others, with the exception of President Sisi of today's Egyptian generation. Egypt and Israel are cooperating in their efforts against common terrorism attacks, tunneling, etc.
The Middle East has been an area of constant turmoil from ancient days to this one. Perhaps it's the hot weather that we can blame, or the shortage of water. The temperaments of the people are hot ones. The Arab inhabitants should all be related to each other with ancestors from Ishmael and Essau. Lee Smith's book, THE STRONG HORSE-power, politics, and the clash of Arab civilizations attempts to explain this continuance, whereas Europe has done the same, with the last war ending as late as 1945 and Russia is sniffing around to start another in Ukraine. I was in Israel in the 80s when Iraq and Iran were trying to wipe each other off the map. The Middle-Easterners are more hot-headed than Europeans have been.
PROOF:
Here is a partial list of other conflicts that have taken place in the last 15 years until 1992
1. The 1991 Gulf War involving the USA (August 2, 1990 to February 28, 1991
2. The Iran-Iraq War where fighters ended by using their children to fight, having run out of adults from September 22, 1980 when Iraq invaded Iran, to August 1988.
3. The Lebanese Civil War from 1975 to 1990, 250,000 fatalities. By 2012, there are about 76,000 displaced within Lebanon from this conflict.
4. Libya's interference in Chad from 1978 to 1987 with Chadian/French victory
5.1st Sudanese Civil War from 1955 to 1972
2nd Sudanese Civil War from 1983 to 2005
6. Syria-Iraq conflict June 17, 2011 to present Involving ISIS
, a spillover of the Syrian Civil War, the Arab Spring and the Arab Winter. On borders of Syria, Lebanon, Turkey, Iraq, Jordan and Israeli-occupied Golan Heights.
Distant spillovers reaching Egypt, Libya, Yemen, Kuwait, Bangladeash, Phillippines, Algeria, Pakistan, SE Asia, S and C Africa, and Europe.
7. War between Polisario Front and Morocco-dispute over UN mission to Western Sahara with Polisario Front wanting independence from Morocco for past 40 years when Morocco annexed the territory in 1975
8. Arab Spring: Series of anti-government protests, uprisings and armed rebellions spreading across Middle East in early 2011, starting in Syria with refugees fleeing into Egypt from there.
9. ISIS attacks since June 2014, becoming the Islamic State, has had over 70 terrorist attacks in 20 countries, NOT including Syria and Iraq. Attacks in Syria since 2013. Attacks in Belgium since 2014; Australia 2014, Canada 2014, USA in October 2014 in the Queens hatchet attack when 2 police officers were attacked with a hatchet, civilian wounded. France in police station, Saudi Arabia, Libya, Denmark, Tunisia, Yemen, Turkey, Kuwait, Egypt, Iraq, Lebanon, Syria, Indonesia, Bangladesh, Kazakhstan, Malaysia, Germany by 2016, Afghanistan, Pakistan with Taliban and ISIS together, Last recorded was in USA January 2017 at Fort Lauderdale airport shooting of 5 people and 36 injured-as yet no one claiming responsibility but shooter was Esteban Santiago-Ruiz who was arrested.
"Almost every border in the Middle East, from Libya to Pakistan, from Turkey to Yemen, is either ill-defined or in dispute. "
But the UN and Americans tend to know only about Israel's border problems, and do not realize that these fit into a pattern that recurs across the Middle East with one exception; Israel is the one unifying factor for these Arabs. They haven't learned to accept a Jewish state in their midst. To the Arabs, they were of a lower class-dhimmi status, people of the book but 2nd to 3rd class .
If the Palestinian-Israel problem were solved, it would have little impact on the many inter-Arab rivalries that have spawned numerous wars in the region. It would not even eliminate Arab opposition to Israel. After all, Iran is not made up of Arabs.
If Syria were to get back to normal with President Hafez Assad, they would continue to have their territorial dispute with Israel unrelated to the Palestinians over a piece of farmland close to their border. Assad has long advocated a "Greater Syria" that would include present-day Israel. When Arabs entered Palestine in search of working for the incoming Jews, they called themselves Syrian-Palestinians.
In Bible days, Syria's land was called ARAM. They never did have a homogeneous state. Phoenicians lived on this land, too. Aram kept fighting then with Israel and Judah until the 8th century BCE when Syria was overrun by the Assyrians, like Israel was in 722-721 BCE. Jews lived here as well as in Israel and Judah.
All this unrest, and the UN only has interest in finding fault with Israel, for the Arab states now are taking part in the UN and have found an easier way to attack her by this route. Even the USA's Obama has conceded to their power by their vote on 2334 which allowed the UN to condemn Israel. From all reports, Trump will not concede to this and will stand with Israel, for they share the same values. There is indication to me that Trump still hopes to lead a peace agreement with the 2 parties of Palestinians and Israel. He's an expert in making deals. We'll see what he understands and comes up with and if it will differ from Saudi Arabia's deal.
Resource: Myths and Facts-a concise record of the Arab-Israeli conflict by Mitchell G. Bad, Joel Himelfarb
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spillover_of_the)Syrian_Civil _War
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents_linked_to ISIL
The problem we face today after about 70 years of being unable to solve it, is all because the Arabs of the region had been unable to accept a Jewish State in the Middle East. And G-d willing, Israel has been in existence this 2nd time around since 70 CE, for the past almost 70 years now. Arabs on either side of her, Egypt and Jordan, seem to be in acceptance as of today. Syria and Iraq are just about destroyed as nations from their own internal decisions that have nothing to do with Israel. We are left with Lebanon and others farther away from Israel, such as Iran, who still plot, using the Palestinian Arabs as their ammo, the destruction of Israel.
Proof:
If the Arabs, who had united together, had not gone to war against Israel in 1948 to block the UN partition plan, the Palestinian Arabs would have had a Palestinian state in the West Bank, Galilee and the Negev. They would now be celebrating their 69th anniversary of independence, like Israel is.
If the Arabs had not supported terrorism directed at Israeli civilians and had not provoked 6 Arab-Israeli wars, the conflict could have been settled long ago, and the Palestinian problem resolved, but it was not to be.
Like Trump just showed Israelis by telling them not to build in land they won back in the 1967 War, because he will most likely not be able to make a peace deal if they do, it shows how little the rest of the world understands this conflict. Trump is the 4th president to come to a halt in a row of presidents, to plan to make a deal as the arbitrator. Obama wanted Israel to go back to the 67 lines which were temporary lines, not permanent ones. Nobody really does their homework who should.
From 1948 to 1967, the West Bank (Judea and Samaria, please) and Gaza were under Arab rule. NO JEWISH SETTLEMENTS (VILLAGES, TOWNS, CITIES, PLEASE) existed there. That didn't matter. The Arabs never set up a Palestinian state while they had the opportunity.
Instead, Gaza was occupied by Egypt, and Judea and Samaria by Jordan. No demands for a West Bank/Gaza independent state were heard until......until Israel took control of these areas in the Six-Day War of 1967.
Palestinians have been unable to solve their own problem of having a state or not having a state; leaving or staying. They were pawns in 1948 when Arab leaders of the area they lived in told them to leave the area temporarily so that the Arab army would have room to maneuver and take the newly announced state of Israel. They've remained as pawns of a chess game between the Arabs and the Jews.
The Arab states have always held the key to solving the Palestinian problem and look who has come up with a solution; Saudi Arabia. That's what the UN seems to be following right now. The Palestinian refugees, refugees BECAUSE they obeyed the Arab leaders in leaving, could long ago have been resettled among their own people in Arab lands which extend over 5 million square miles. These Arab nations have the land and money to rehabilitate the Palestinian refugees.
Israel, with but a fraction of Arab land and wealth (remember-the Arabs have the land with oil, none in Israel) absorbed 820,000 Jews who were driven from Arab countries in the 1950s.
The Arabs' refusal to do the same with the Palestinians shows they are more interested in using the refugees as a political weapon against Israel than they are in truly solving the problem, with the exception of Jordan.
Palestine Created Already
The Middle East has been an area of constant turmoil from ancient days to this one. Perhaps it's the hot weather that we can blame, or the shortage of water. The temperaments of the people are hot ones. The Arab inhabitants should all be related to each other with ancestors from Ishmael and Essau. Lee Smith's book, THE STRONG HORSE-power, politics, and the clash of Arab civilizations attempts to explain this continuance, whereas Europe has done the same, with the last war ending as late as 1945 and Russia is sniffing around to start another in Ukraine. I was in Israel in the 80s when Iraq and Iran were trying to wipe each other off the map. The Middle-Easterners are more hot-headed than Europeans have been.
PROOF:
Here is a partial list of other conflicts that have taken place in the last 15 years until 1992
1. The 1991 Gulf War involving the USA (August 2, 1990 to February 28, 1991
2. The Iran-Iraq War where fighters ended by using their children to fight, having run out of adults from September 22, 1980 when Iraq invaded Iran, to August 1988.
3. The Lebanese Civil War from 1975 to 1990, 250,000 fatalities. By 2012, there are about 76,000 displaced within Lebanon from this conflict.
4. Libya's interference in Chad from 1978 to 1987 with Chadian/French victory
5.1st Sudanese Civil War from 1955 to 1972
2nd Sudanese Civil War from 1983 to 2005
6. Syria-Iraq conflict June 17, 2011 to present Involving ISIS
, a spillover of the Syrian Civil War, the Arab Spring and the Arab Winter. On borders of Syria, Lebanon, Turkey, Iraq, Jordan and Israeli-occupied Golan Heights.
Distant spillovers reaching Egypt, Libya, Yemen, Kuwait, Bangladeash, Phillippines, Algeria, Pakistan, SE Asia, S and C Africa, and Europe.
7. War between Polisario Front and Morocco-dispute over UN mission to Western Sahara with Polisario Front wanting independence from Morocco for past 40 years when Morocco annexed the territory in 1975
8. Arab Spring: Series of anti-government protests, uprisings and armed rebellions spreading across Middle East in early 2011, starting in Syria with refugees fleeing into Egypt from there.
9. ISIS attacks since June 2014, becoming the Islamic State, has had over 70 terrorist attacks in 20 countries, NOT including Syria and Iraq. Attacks in Syria since 2013. Attacks in Belgium since 2014; Australia 2014, Canada 2014, USA in October 2014 in the Queens hatchet attack when 2 police officers were attacked with a hatchet, civilian wounded. France in police station, Saudi Arabia, Libya, Denmark, Tunisia, Yemen, Turkey, Kuwait, Egypt, Iraq, Lebanon, Syria, Indonesia, Bangladesh, Kazakhstan, Malaysia, Germany by 2016, Afghanistan, Pakistan with Taliban and ISIS together, Last recorded was in USA January 2017 at Fort Lauderdale airport shooting of 5 people and 36 injured-as yet no one claiming responsibility but shooter was Esteban Santiago-Ruiz who was arrested.
"Almost every border in the Middle East, from Libya to Pakistan, from Turkey to Yemen, is either ill-defined or in dispute. "
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| Six Day War of June 1967 in Jerusalem |
If the Palestinian-Israel problem were solved, it would have little impact on the many inter-Arab rivalries that have spawned numerous wars in the region. It would not even eliminate Arab opposition to Israel. After all, Iran is not made up of Arabs.
If Syria were to get back to normal with President Hafez Assad, they would continue to have their territorial dispute with Israel unrelated to the Palestinians over a piece of farmland close to their border. Assad has long advocated a "Greater Syria" that would include present-day Israel. When Arabs entered Palestine in search of working for the incoming Jews, they called themselves Syrian-Palestinians.
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| When King Solomon died in 920 BCE, Israel divided into Israel and Judah |
All this unrest, and the UN only has interest in finding fault with Israel, for the Arab states now are taking part in the UN and have found an easier way to attack her by this route. Even the USA's Obama has conceded to their power by their vote on 2334 which allowed the UN to condemn Israel. From all reports, Trump will not concede to this and will stand with Israel, for they share the same values. There is indication to me that Trump still hopes to lead a peace agreement with the 2 parties of Palestinians and Israel. He's an expert in making deals. We'll see what he understands and comes up with and if it will differ from Saudi Arabia's deal.
Resource: Myths and Facts-a concise record of the Arab-Israeli conflict by Mitchell G. Bad, Joel Himelfarb
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spillover_of_the)Syrian_Civil _War
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents_linked_to ISIL
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