Jewish Bubba: Comparing Herb Hochfeld, A Cohen, with Nadene Goldfoot, DNA Matching Genes

Tuesday, February 21, 2023

Comparing Herb Hochfeld, A Cohen, with Nadene Goldfoot, DNA Matching Genes

Nadene Goldfoot

My 1st cousin Nathan Goldfoot and his 2nd cousin, Herb Hochfeld with Herb's daughter. Nate was great grandson to Rabbi Hochfeld. The rabbi was great grandfather also to Herb Hochfeld. I am not related as far as I know to Herb, but DNA proves otherwise. We are all Jewish. Both men are now deceased. Herb lived in Portland and we visited many times; always talked on the phone. I only met him for the 1st time through finding him in genealogy. Nate hadn't met him. Nate's mother was living in Grand Coulee, Washington, where Nate had been living. Helen's father had a department store there.

Herb was born in 1922 in Portland.

I was born in 1934 in Portland.

First, I'm comparing GedMatch's results using 3cMs with FTDNA's results. FTDNA starts with 7cMs. with Herb and myself

Comparing Kit T265406 (Herb Hochfeld) [Migration - F2 - T] and Kit T969950 (Nadene Goldfoot) [Migration - F2 - F]

Segment threshold size will be adjusted dynamically with an average of 200 SNPs. About 2/3 will occur between 185 and 214 SNPs.
Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 3.0 cM
Mismatch-bunching Limit will be adjusted to 60 percent of the segment threshold size for any given segment.

How did I get the Hochfeld genes to match Herb? Nate's father was my father's brother, Charles. My father was Morris, both sons of Nathan Abraham Goldfus/foot of Telsiai, Lithuania. That must mean that Hochfeld and Goldfus were connected at some time. Though I have an immense tree, I haven't got this connection other than Nate. Helen couldn't have affected my genes. The rabbi's father was Simcha Cohen, so that may be why as I match many Cohens.

Herb's haplogroup was J1. The Cohen gene. He knew he was a Cohen since he was a child, and held that position in the synagogue. He was bar mitzvahed in my synagogue, Neveh Zedek.

Below are results from GEDMatch.com

Chr	B37 Start Pos'n	B37 End Pos'n	Centimorgans (cM)	SNPs	Segment threshold	Bunch limit	SNP Density Ratio
1	63,457,259	69,909,512	7.5	1,573	185	111	0.46
1	207,596,484	210,055,630	4	683	206	123	0.45
1	243,028,780	245,774,993	7.7	625	196	117	0.42
2	129,835,103	133,541,454	5	550	187	112	0.46
2	218,803,329	220,639,696	3.1	384	205	123	0.45
3	8,729,551	10,566,940	3.6	592	193	115	0.48
3	71,872,014	73,111,998	3.1	353	194	116	0.44
3	115,775,346	117,794,284	3.5	520	203	121	0.47
3	140,160,906	142,652,559	3.2	489	228	136	0.45
4	140,724,600	145,520,608	4.6	730	193	115	0.39
4	164,007,992	167,099,916	4.2	687	196	117	0.43
4	184,394,392	185,330,669	3.2	296	185	111	0.41
5	172,268,003	173,151,171	3	276	183	109	0.45
5	173,160,609	174,295,209	4.1	363	186	111	0.44
6	5,659,478	8,260,336	6.1	897	182	109	0.47
7	153,522,140	154,681,383	4.1	327	202	121	0.38
8	8,374,439	11,860,845	4	1,212	187	112	0.47
8	127,339,929	128,858,041	4.2	440	196	117	0.42
8	137,604,801	139,149,406	3.3	381	181	108	0.44
9	27,630,418	34,437,469	6.2	1,531	201	120	0.46
9	88,118,237	90,203,221	4.2	504	174	104	0.49
12	53,552,475	56,349,836	4	576	185	111	0.48
14	32,343,671	33,530,057	4.4	351	191	114	0.42
15	57,116,178	60,883,281	7.1	1,068	192	115	0.44
16	10,039,357	11,481,845	3.3	478	182	109	0.46
17	3,719,620	5,945,876	5.1	652	216	129	0.46
17	55,110,710	59,307,713	5	711	215	129	0.44
17	73,611,823	74,958,452	3.1	317	209	125	0.42
18	3,928,636	4,836,270	3	330	202	121	0.45
19	8,285,607	9,246,205	3.4	251	203	121	0.44
20	6,764,536	7,951,656	3.2	311	196	117	0.42
20	20,371,406	25,055,445	3.9	1,045	208	124	0.47

Largest segment = 7.7 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) 137.4cM (3.831 Pct)

32 shared segments found for this comparison.

617185 SNPs used for this comparison.

55.391 Pct SNPs are full identical

I didn't match Herb on FTDNA which starts with 6cMs, but my brother did. on chromosome 8

with 6.90cMs, , 9 with 6.95 cMs., and chromosome 12. with 13.25cMs-quite a large segment.

David and I show a triangulation on chromosomes 8 and 9.

Chromosome	Start Location	End Location	Centimorgans(cM)	Matching SNPs
Herbert David Hochfeld	8	8,374,439	13,380,279	6.90	1,678
Herbert David Hochfeld	9	27,630,418	34,554,000	6.95	1,745
Herbert David Hochfeld	12	104,815,303	115,589,524	13.25	2,776

Rabbi Chaim David ben

Simcha Rivka Hochfeld b:

September 24, 1829 in

Belaya Tzerkaw, Ukraine,

Bessarabia, Russia d: April

5, 1904 in Portland, Oregon.

son of a Cohen.

Ahavai Sholom, founded in 1869, The earliest members were traditionally minded Prussian

and Polish immigrants, and for decades Ahavai Sholom was referred to as the “Polisha shul

,” despite actually leaning more toward the German style of worship.

My 1st cousin from my father's brother, Charles Goldfoot, was

Nathan Goldfoot. Nathan's mother was Helen Hochfeld. Helen's

parents were William Hochfeld and Francis Cuschner. William was

born in the Russian Empire. Francis was born in Bismark, North

Dakota. William's father was Rabbi Chaim David ben Simcha

Rivka Hochfeld. He was born in Belaya Tzerkaw, Ukraine,

Bessarabia, Russia, and he continued as a Rabbi in Portland, Oregon. William's mother was Rachel "David" Erlich. Rabbi Hochfeld was the subject of a paper by

researcher Dr. Paull, who is also one of my DNA matches.