Nadene Goldfoot
Harvard lawyer Roger Drummon Fisher,(1922-2012 Illinois, lawyer), son of Walter Taylor Fisher (1892-1991 b:Chicago, lawyer) and Katherine Drummon Fisher; son of Walter Lowrie Fisher (1862-1935 lawyer) in Wheeling, Ohio, West Virginia . Three generations of lawyers. PBS had this program called "The Advocates" on Sunday evenings. The American Friends Service Committee, a Quaker group that had shown considerable bias against Israel, had offered this idea. Roger Fisher(May 28, 1922-August 25, 2012) was also a Harvard Law Professor but who supported the Arab side of the conflict with Israel. He was all for the Palestinians. Roger was the founder and executive producer of the program.
Alan Dershowitz (September 1, 1938) was up against Roger Fisher on a PBS Show in Los Angeles with a live audience in 1970 when he was a young Harvard Law professor. From 1964 to 2013, he taught at Harvard Law School, where he was appointed as the Felix Frankfurter Professor of Law in 1993. He's an authority on the American Constitution. Palestinian refugees in 1967 Newly digitized archive photos from the UN agency UNRWA provide a visual insight into the lives of early Palestinian refugees. They were created in two main waves - from the Middle East war of 1948, and in 1967 when Israel occupied the West Bank, Gaza Strip and East Jerusalem Dershowitz had his first visit of Israel before the show, visiting the Gaza Strip. Dershowitz says he found himself sympathetic to the Arabs of the West Bank and Gaza and families of 1948 that were separated then and those also in 1967. He was there for several weeks, but came back with pride for Israel and ready for the debate. He was Israel's lead lawyer in the court of public opinion.
Ten years later after PBS's The Advocates: In my living room in Safed in 1980 sitting on a single bed waiting for my lift to arrive at the port with our furniture. The only window has bars on it because we were on a first floor and terrorists could enter without them. I made arrangements from eastern Oregon's Ontario where we lived for housing and a 10 month re-training program to teach English in Israel. We even took our female German shepherd with us. We gave up a beautiful home and had never visited Israel before, but I had done a lot of reading; so much so that I had to make aliyah. I didn't just visit Israel for a couple of weeks. I lived there for over 5 years before returning to the states from September 1980 to November 23, 1985. My first 10 months were at a school studying Hebrew 6 days a week, then teaching in a junior high our English language. We saw as much as we could during those 5 years. I gave blood and in return I would get blood if needed. I learned to shoot an A1 rifle and work with Israelis who drove around, spotters of trouble. My German shepherd who also immigrated with me was with me during these drives and the most favorite on these drives. I voted in an election. I shopped in supermarkets, took walks, bought a car, wrote plays and then produced them, acting as well in them. We had started "Yiddish Theater in English." and Safed was our home where we did all this. I scratch my head trying to figure out how these Quakers came up with such a taste of Israel--and in 2 weeks.
Fisher started the debate stating that the American Friends found blame enough for all in their visit. He went on with "There are no devils and no angels in the Middle East. " Then Fisher stated that he had 4 things that Israel should be doing. (I can tell right away that those viewing what they were taken to see had no military background to know what to look for.)
They believed the US should urge Israel to use military leverage. Here was what he then stated.
1. Allow Palestinian refugees into the West Bank and Israel itself.
2. Israel should withdraw its forces as part of package settlement.
3. Israel should abandon the policy of escalatory retaliation-2 eyes for an eye.
4. Israel should sit down with indirect talks, not insisting that the 1st talks be face to face.
Then he trusted President Nasser and King Hussein to be his key witnesses. Nasser began with a straight-out lie, ignoring the 3 No's at Khartoum: I take it Fisher used quotes from these men. They wouldn't have been a part of this live show. That means that Fisher is the one who did the research was ignoring the Khartoum decisions that the Arabs were not ignoring. They were following it quite well with loud and emphatic No, No, No!.
Quaker activists' work in March 2019. Quaker schools are fertile ground for BDS and have become ground zero when it comes to pro-BDS faculty and students. The Quaker tradition of even-handedness and political neutrality has long passed; by the late 1970s the American Friends Service Committee (AFSC) had effectively enshrined Palestinians as the “new Jews.” Support for Palestinian terror as “resistance” against Israel’s “structural violence” and against sanctions on Iran’s nuclear program is now customary.In 2018, Israel revealed their list of 20 social justice groups from around the world it was henceforth banning from the country because of their support for the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) movement. A rabbi on their staff– the American Friends Service Committee (AFSC) was taken by surprise. How can they attack Israel with the BDS yet had helped Jewish refugees after 1938? It happens that today, BDS is as bad as bullets are.
Dershowitz reminded Fisher that when Arabs speak to Arabs they say one thing, but while they speak to the West, they say another thing. To his people, Hussein of Jordan said, "Kill the Jews wherever you find them. Kill them with your hands, with your nails, with your teeth." (That, coming from the more placid of Arab leaders-and it was quite brutal !) Well, you know he wouldn't let the West know how he felt.
We find that Palestinian Qassam rocket firings increase sharply on the day following the killing of Palestinians by Israel. In addition, we show that the probability of Palestinian killings of Israelis (although not the number of people killed) increases following the killing of Palestinians by Israel. Thus, it appears that Palestinian violence does contain an element of retaliation, and that Israeli military operations against Palestinians lead to escalation rather than incapacitation. Consistent with previous analyses, we confirm that Israeli aggression, too, contains an element of retaliation, in that Israel is more likely to kill Palestinians on days following killings of Israelis by Palestinians. Together, these findings suggest that, contrary to previous analyses that characterized Israeli violence alone as retaliatory, the dynamics of retaliation in the Second Intifada are bidirectional. From PNAS (Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the United States of America (often abbreviated PNAS or PNAS USA) is a peer-reviewed multidisciplinary scientific journal. During the May 2021 conflict in Gaza, Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad fired over 4,300 rockets at Israeli civilians. In August 2022, Palestinian Islamic Jihad fired over 1,100 rockets at Israelis during the three-day escalation, according to the Israel Defense Forces.May 13, 2023
May 15, 2023, I published this: After 5 days of fighting, Israel agreed to a truce with the Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ) early Sunday morning. In total, 1,139 rockets were fired into Israel and over 430 were intercepted. Most of the rest fell in open areas. The Iron Dome had a 95% success rate. The IDF struck 422 PIJ targets and eliminated at least 4 high ranking PIJ commanders. One Israeli woman and one Palestinian laborer were killed by the rocket fire. Over a dozen Israelis were injured. [Can you imagine the US agreeing to a truce with Al Qaida or ISIS?]
Intifada, also spelled intifadah, Arabic intifāḍah (“shaking off”), either of two popular uprisings of Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza Strip aimed at ending Israel's occupation of those territories and creating an independent Palestinian state. However, when a meeting is scheduled, the Palestinians do not show up.
The First Intifada or First Palestinian Intifada, also known simply as the intifada or the intifadah, was a sustained series of protests and violent riots carried out by Palestinians in the Palestinian Territories and Israel. It was motivated by collective Palestinian frustration over Israel's military occupation of the West Bank and the Gaza Strip, as it approached a twenty-year mark, having begun after Israel's victory in the 1967 Arab–Israeli War. The uprising lasted from December 1987 until the Madrid Conference of 1991, though some date its conclusion to 1993, with the signing of the Oslo Accords.
The Third intifada? Since the collapse of the second intifada—a large and sustained Palestinian uprising—in 2005, the Israeli-Palestinian conflict has smoldered. Hamas has launched miniature wars in the Gaza Strip, and Palestinian armed groups and individuals have carried out terrorist attacks in the West Bank, prompting a harsh Israeli military response. Palestinians have resisted in other ways, too—marching, protesting, and throwing rocks. Despite many violent flare-ups, however, both sides have avoided fighting that reaches the scope and scale of the second intifada, even though a negotiated settlement seems more distant than ever.
Fisher specialized in negotiation and conflict management. He was the co-author (with William Ury) of the book Getting to Yes, about "interest-based" negotiation, as well as numerous other publications. After serving in World War II as a weather reconnaissance pilot, Fisher worked on the Marshall Plan in Paris under W. Averell Harriman. After finishing his law degree at Harvard, he worked with the Washington, DC, law firm of Covington & Burling, arguing several cases before the US Supreme Court and advising on several international disputes. He returned to Harvard Law School and became a professor there in 1958.
On April 4, 1977, President Anwar Sadat and his wife, Jehan, were welcomed to the White House by President and Mrs. Carter. Sadat was assassinated in 1981 by Islamic fundamentalists dissatisfied with Sadat concessions during the peace process. Throughout his career, Fisher made significant efforts to seek peace in the Middle East. Among these efforts included his involvement in Sadat's trip to Jerusalem and the Camp David summit that led to an Israeli–Egyptian peace treaty.In this latter case, he helped devise a process called the one-text, where a facilitator shuttled back and forth between the parties, refining a proposed document until it could not satisfy the parties interests more effectively at which point the parties either approve the document or agree to start from scratch. President Carter and Secretary of State Vance created 23 drafts in 13 days before they had a proposal to which both sides could say yes.
Carter was not a president who stood up with Israel. He wrote a book that shocked most of us: Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid. He's very accusatory to Israel in it. Said of the book, "The general parameters of a long-term, two-state agreement are well known, the president writes. "There will be no substantive and permanent peace for any peoples in this troubled region as long as Israel is violating key UN resolutions, official American policy, and the international “road map” for peace by occupying Arab lands and oppressing the Palestinians. Except for mutually agreeable negotiated modifications, Israel’s official pre-1967 borders must be honored. As were all previous administrations since the founding of Israel, US government leaders must be in the forefront of achieving this long-delayed goal of a just agreement that both sides can honor."
Since the publication of former President Jimmy Carter's book, Palestine Peace Not Apartheid, the Carter Center has seen a wave of resignations. More than a dozen people have left in protest, saying the book puts too much blame on Israel. Carter could have been influenced by Fisher's outlook.
Biden’s release of frozen Iranian funds (6 billion) undermines US sanctions worldwide, by Eric Mandel-I just saw him speaking on JBS, interviewed by Shahar Azani.
The downside is what Dr. Eric Mandel, American, has noted; in that most all Americans are not that interested in Israel and really don't understand what's happening. His example was that they didn't even know that Israel didn't have a constitution. Dr. Eric Mandel is the founder and Director of MEPIN™, the Middle East Political and Information Network™. MEPIN is a private Middle East research analysis read by members of Congress, their foreign policy advisors, members of the Knesset, journalists, and organizational leaders. Dr. Mandel regularly briefs members of Congress and their staffs about the current geo-political situation in the Middle East, and meets with members of the Israeli leadership and their advisors. He is the Northeast Co-Chair of StandWithUs, an international organization dedicated to educating the public about Israel, while fighting the BDS movement (Boycott, Divest and Sanction) against Israel.
No, The case is FOR Israel. Israel has the right to exist and to not be attacked, which it is constantly. Carter, former Sunday school teacher, and Fisher, had pre-conceived ideas of Jews to start with, and were very misguided in their judgement if you ask me and (thank G-d), many others.
Resource:
https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.1012115107
https://hls.harvard.edu/today/roger-fisher-1922-2012/
Book: Defending Israel by Alan M. Dershowitz, p.14-24
Book: Letters From Israel by Nadene Goldfoot
https://afsc.org/news/quakers-jews-and-israels-bds-blacklist
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Fisher_(academic)#
https://www.npr.org/2007/01/26/7022490/a-key-critics-problem-with-jimmy-carters-book
https://www.jpost.com/opinion/quaker-activists-84222
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Intifada
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Intifada
https://www.foreignaffairs.com/israel/third-intifada-israeli-palestinian-conflict
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