Who Committed Genocide? Nazis? Jews? Palestinians?

                                              Bodies of Jews from gassing
 Nadene Goldfoot

Everyone considers the Holocaust as a genocide.  Nazis said they were trying to wipe out all the Jews in the world. They lined people up and shot them, and they gassed them. Men, women and children.  

We are in the state of remembering 9/11 2001 and 10/7/23.  One in 2001 was a terrible attack in New York City of hitting our skyscrapers with 4 airplanes on September 11th  killing 2,977 victims and the other on October 7, 2023 when Hamas led attacks on Southern Israel killed more than 800 Israeli civilians.

I want to add that the UN, ever since the Middle East members were added to the role call, have found fault with Israel more than any other country.  They've been downright anti-Semitic.  It wasn't till Trump helped to create the Abraham accords that at least 4 countries are now joining Trump and Israel in this venture.  There were a few others who had already signed a peace treaty with Israel.  Saudi Arabia has been a hold-out, and they have power.  Egypt is tough, but had signed a peace treaty.  Most may be under the thumb of Iran, the strong horse with all the money and power.  

Israeli volunteer medics reveal never-before-told stories of battling Hamas, rushing to save lives on Oct. 7: ‘Like a scene out of the Walking Dead’

The difference between the Holocaust and 10/7/23 was the matter of the killings.  In October 7, the attack was made by killers seemingly out of their minds, slaughtering viciously the people in  the worst horrendous manner to not just kill but to put the fear of G-d into the whole world that this could happen to them.  A normal person cannot connive or conceive of the incredible ways they killed and maimed the bodies while alive or dead.  It was the worst sight in the world, putting all of Israel into a state of shock.   The outdoor dance event was the Supernova Sukkot Gathering (commonly known as the Nova Music Festival), an open-air electronic trance music festival that took place in the desert of southern Israel ; where it all began, during Succot, a happy holiday in October.  

On October 7, 2023, the festival became the site of a devastating surprise attack by Hamas drugged (?) militants, marking  of the most prominent and tragic event of that year.  

 In 2011 and 2018, U.S. federal default judgments in civil lawsuits found Iran liable for providing material support to al-Qaeda in connection with 9/11, ordering financial restitution to victims' families, though these judgments relied on civil court standards rather than direct operational complicity in the plot itself.

 Now, Shin Bet is saying they warned PM Netanyahu just before the 10/7th attack and Netanyahu saying he was not told of the oncoming attack.  As a matter of fact, either way as I see it, Shin Bet was too late to warn the Israelis living along the border where it took place. 

Today is September 11, Erev Rosh Hashana, the birthday of the world according to Jewish history. It starts this evening. How can Israel ever heal the wound on their people and country?  In a flash, countries are doing the opposite cruel thing to both;  blaming both again for all the sins of the world:  countries against them, people, even Jewish people, against this tiny country that has managed to reach it's 78th birthday since 1948. 

 The politics of Israel have been trying to put others in the position of PM ever since June 24, 2021.  Benjamin Netanyahu has served as the Prime Minister of Israel for a total of more than 18 years across three separate terms. One help is that he speaks English better than many Americans.   The people admire him;  feel safer with him at the helm, or had felt safer than with Labor (the left). I have always been left in awe of his speeches of explanation of matters.   Netanyahu is the greatest of speakers, being he lived in the USA when younger.  He has had a crazy felony held against him that has taken him to court.  Trump tried his best to talk the President of Israel out of it and let him work on just his job, but he has gone along with this additional burden on Netanyahu, so that it is still having to report to the court trial.  Benjamin Netanyahu's corruption trial officially began on May 24, 2020, in the Jerusalem District Court. He has his time interrupted by the court demands.  

 There is a big difference in the ratios of people in the USA and the 2,977 who died.  The USA has a population of 342.6 million people.  Israel has 7.828 million Jews and 2.173 million Arab citizens. 

Hamas is estimated to have between 20,000 and 40,000 military fighters, though exact total membership numbers are not officially published by the group. Fighters: Estimates from intelligence agencies and news reports generally place the number of armed members and fighters between 25,000 and 40,000 prior to major military conflicts. Intelligence Assessments: The CIA estimated Hamas had 20,000 to 30,000 fighters. Civilian Infrastructure: Beyond armed wings, Hamas operates as a political movement and governing authority in Gaza, with a broader network of civil servants, political members, and social service operators, though most residents of Gaza are not formal members of the group, yet they are threatened to aid and abet Hamas anyway.  

One of the charges against Israel now is that they have created a genocide against the Palestinians, comparing the Holocaust to Oct 7th. Israel has not tried to kill them all off.  They are already backed by those who know wars, that they did everything in their power NOT to do such a thing;  but Hamas is one step ahead, placing people in such a way they they were trapped.  It did not matter to them that their own people were not protected but purposely placed in the way of the attack.  Does anyone think that there were bomb shelters for them like Israel has had to do for their own people?  No bomb shelters.  This is WAR.  Israel is in danger of being destroyed! With Iran and nuclear capabilities and inter continental ballistic missiles, Israel is not safe other than what they can do in the manner of defensive fighting.  

The Official Legal Definition

The convention defines genocide as any of five specific acts committed with the intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial, or religious group. 

The Five Prohibited Acts

Under the Convention, the targeted actions include killing, causing serious bodily or mental harm, inflicting conditions calculated to bring about physical destruction, preventing births, and forcibly transferring children. 

I've read the book by Martin  Gilbert, Holocaust,  and it definitely was a genocide of the world's Jews.  

Key Elements Required

Intent (dolus specialis): A proven specific intent to physically destroy the group is mandatory, separating genocide from other atrocities.
Protected Groups: The definition strictly encompasses national, ethnical, racial, or religious groups.

Sara E. Brown, Ph.D. is a non-profit executive, educator, and world-renowned expert on genocide studies.
Sara holds the first Ph.D. in comparative genocide studies from the Strassler Center for Holocaust and Genocide Studies at Clark University. She was a director of Chhange, a Holocaust, human rights, and genocide education non-profit and managed post-secondary education programming for USC Shoah Foundation.
Sara has an extensive background in non-profit advocacy and in education. She has worked at the Interdisciplinary Center in Israel, conducted genocide-related research in Rwanda, and served as a project coordinator in refugee camps in Tanzania."In a policy brief by Sara E. Brown, who holds a PhD in comparative genocide studies and now runs she San Diego office of the American Jewish Committee, describing Hamas's actions as "genocidal":  Her people are not accusing Israel as doing the same to Palestinians.  
Others want to accuse Israel of genocide, because of the first numbers.  Perhaps Israel wasn't ready for the Palestinians to sacrifice their own people for the sake of muddying Israel's reputation, is my opinion.  "Israel's defense was a bombing campaign in Gaza that was said to have killed more people in the 1st week than Hamas attacks killed Jews" who were all in bomb shelters, of course.  They seemed to have cut off food, fuel and water to the territory. 
On October 13, 2023, the Israel Defense Forces ordered approximately 1.1 million residents in northern Gaza and Gaza City to evacuate southward within 24 hours ahead of an anticipated ground offensive.  That was a move to save their lives !!
 "On October 13th the Israelis ordered a wholesale evacuation from the north of Gaza---They felt like they were fighting human "animals" at the way they fought was a report issued from somebody."  The numbers were always reported  exaggerated numbers of deaths;  their death toll neared 20,000 and they reported that their hospitals faced collapse under the bombing and blockade, and photos circulated of Palestinian men forced to strip to their underwear at gunpoint.  That can be easily done with photoshop.  
To hurt Israel more than ever, Segal had the chupah to organize a letter signed by 60 Holocaust and genocide scholars warning that "the time for concerted action to prevent genocide is now!  It any of this crew were truly "historians" I can't understand how they could draw such conclusions or not adding 2 plus 2 for it's logical conclusions, knowing the history of Jews.  Bah!  Humbug!!! What kind of Jew today goes out of his way to bring more harm to Israel after studying his own history?  Is he against Sarah or against Israel?  I notice they went to the same university, Clark.  

Raz Segal holds a Ph.D. in History from Clark University in Worcester, Massachusetts, a private university).Clark University does not have a standalone numerical ranking specifically for its history department's focus on Jewish studies, but the university is globally renowned for its specialized Strassler Center for Holocaust and Genocide Studies, which heavily incorporates Jewish history, the Holocaust, and antisemitism into its graduate and undergraduate history tracks.
This is terrible !  Segal is a surname on Netanyahu's mother's side of which I also have on my tree!!.  I am proud of this connection to Netanyahu's mother.   
One grandiose accuser was the "historian" Raz Segal, Jewish, director of the program of Holocaust and Genocide studies at Stockton University in New Jersey, Raz Segal is an Israeli and American historian residing in the United States, who is Associate Professor of Holocaust and Genocide Studies and Endowed Professor in the Study of Modern Genocide at Stockton University, where he also directs the Master of Arts in Holocaust and Genocide Studies program.

Resource:

Jewish Currents Fall/Winter 2024:  Can Genocide Studies survive a Genocide in Gaza?  Who says there was any genocide? pp 68-69

9/11 on 2001 and 2026 USA and Jewish Start of a New Year

 Nadene Goldfoot                                   

Rosh Hashanah, the Jewish New Year, begins tonight. According to 

Jewish tradition, the world, as well as every individual, is judged. It is 

meant to be a time of repentance and reflection, and of recognizing 

that God is the ultimate sovereign of the world. May this Rosh 

Hashanah result in a judgement of peace and prosperity for each of us 

and for the entire world. (from my Israel AM information) 

Shana Tova!                      

The skyline of Lower Manhattan in New York City photographed in January 2001 and September 4, 2026.

Interim Archives/Getty Images/Gary Hershorn/ABC News

This is also  the day, our TV programming of all the 

channels 2 onward, has 9/11 history about :

what happened in New York City's buildings and all the people 

who died from it. It is a day to recognize and be kind to our 

veterans as well.                    

On September 11, 2001, 19 terrorists from the 

extremist group al-Qaeda hijacked four 

commercial 

airplanes to carry out coordinated suicide attacks 

against the United States.

                No pictures of Jolani until 2016 

Al Qaeda is the terrorist group.  Jolani (now President of Syria)was head of this terrorist group.  Ahmed al-Sharaa, widely known as Abu Mohammad al-Jolani, led the Syrian al-Qaeda affiliate (Jabhat al-Nusra) from April 2013 until July 2016.  The 9/11 attacks and the later U.S. response sparked his interest in militant jihad. 

He began attending hidden religious and political discussions 

in the suburbs of Damascus.  After the U.S. invaded Iraq in 

2003, he left Syria to join al-Qaeda in Iraq. 

Years later, he rose to lead militant groups like al Qaeda in the 

region.

The Attacks

1,2. World Trade Center: Two hijacked planes were flown into the Twin Towers in New York City, causing both structures to collapse and destroying large parts of lower Manhattan. 
3. The Pentagon: A third plane struck the Pentagon, the headquarters of the U.S. Department of Defense, just outside Washington, D.C.
4. Shanksville, Pennsylvania: Passengers and crew on the fourth plane, Flight 93, revolted against the hijackers, causing the plane to crash into an empty field rather than its intended target. 

Casualties and Aftermath

Loss of Life: A total of 2,977 victims died during the attacks, including civilians on the planes, at the World Trade Center, and at the Pentagon, alongside hundreds of first responders. 
Global Impact: The attacks prompted the United States to launch the "War on Terror", invade Afghanistan, and create the Department of Homeland Security.
Reactions and Impact in Israel

     PM Ariel Sharon: Ariel Sharon (born February 26, 1928, Kefar Malal, Palestine [now in Israel]—died January 11, 2014, Ramat Gan, Israel) was an Israeli general and politician, whose public life was marked by brilliant but controversial military achievements and   political policies. He was one of the chief participants in the Arab-Israeli wars and was elected prime minister of Israel in 2001, a position he held until he was incapacitated by a stroke in 2006.
Ariel Sharon's parents originally came from the Russian Empire (specifically from areas that are modern-day Belarus and Russia/Belarus border regions, and present-day Belarus/Russia). 
• His father, Shmuel Scheinerman, was born in Brest-Litovsk (now Brest, Belarus).
His mother, Vera (Dvora) Schneirov, was born in Mogilev (now in Belarus). 
They immigrated to Mandatory Palestine in 1922 to escape the growing persecution of Jews by the Soviet government.  
This RETURN happened all over the world, but mainly in Russia; it was the start of 6 Aliyahas (Aliyot) from Russian lands to Palestine, their ancient homeland.  
Official Condolences: Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon and other leaders strongly condemned the attacks, offering deep sympathies to the American people and declaring a national day of mourning.
Security Responses: Israel temporarily closed its international airspace to incoming foreign flights and placed its security and intelligence forces on high alert out of concern for potential ripple effects or coordinated regional threats.
Geopolitical Shift: Israeli officials recognized immediately that the event would radically transform U.S. foreign policy and global attitudes toward militant Islamist terrorism, a dynamic discussed in analyses from the Council on Foreign Relations. 
Context and Conspiracies
The "Dancing Israelis" Incident: Hours after the attacks, the FBI detained five Israeli men who worked for a moving company and were reported by a bystander for acting suspiciously while filming the burning towers. They were thoroughly investigated and eventually deported back to Israel after authorities concluded they had no prior knowledge of the plot. 
Debunked Theories: Over the years, the incident and other fabricated rumors—such as a false claim that 4,000 Israelis or Jewish people stayed home from the World Trade Center—became the basis for persistent, antisemitic and thoroughly debunked conspiracy theories attempting to blame Israel or the Mossad for the attacks.
It had been common practice among Arabs in the Middle East to blame Israel or Jews for everything bad that happened, even the weather.  I'm not surprised at these baseless accusations.  Again, it's anti-Semitism.