Nadene Goldfoot
DNA of males of both Jews and Arabs carrying either J1 or J2 have a common ancestor that lived about 4300 years ago, give or take by 500 years. (The Torah "Bible" (Old Testament) tells us that Abraham was the father of both Ishmael and Isaac, but each son had a different mother. The Jews had Sarah and Arabs had Hagar, Sarah's Egyptian handmaid who could even had been a daughter of a pharaoh, according to some Muslims.) Sarah herself was the niece of Abraham. The Bible backs up the DNA findings.
The two, Ishmael and Isaac came from not only the same father but the same people. Their descendants parted ways, if I figured this right, over 2500 years later, which was a very long time.
4,300 years ago finds our ancestor in the years between 2274 BCE and 2724 BCE. What was going on then possibly between us?
The period of 2774 BCE to 2272 BCE precedes the traditional origins of the Jewish people, as the key events that define Jewish history occurred significantly later.
This era falls within the early Bronze Age in the ancient Near East, a time long before the biblical Patriarchs, the Exodus, or the establishment of the Israelite kingdoms.
1800 BCE: The traditional period of the Patriarchs (Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob) is generally dated to around this time, when Abraham journeyed from Ur to Canaan.
Ur of the Chaldees (Ur Kasdim) was a prominent ancient Sumerian city in southern Mesopotamia, famous as the biblical birthplace of Abraham, located near modern-day Tell el-Muqayyar, Iraq, known for its advanced culture, ziggurats, and extensive trade, though some scholars suggest a location further north in modern Turkey (Urfa). The name connects it to the Chaldean people who later became influential, and excavations by Sir Leonard Woolley in the 1920s and 30s revealed its prosperous, idol-worshipping past centered on the moon god Nanna. (Interesting since Arab women and myself use Nada as a name.)
We can surmise that both Arab and Jew's origin was the city of Ur of the Chaldees, or included today's land of Iraq/Turkey. We were fromthe Chaldean people. We Jews are also Semites.
During the Early Bronze Age (c. 3300–2000 BCE) in the Middle East, major developments included the rise of the first great urban centers in Mesopotamia (like Sumer), extensive trade networks connecting regions from Egypt to Anatolia, the invention of writing (cuneiform), and the formation of complex city-states with centralized governments and monumental architecture (ziggurats).
This era also saw significant migrations and climatic shifts, particularly a severe drought around 2200 BCE, which led to the collapse of some urban centers in the Levant and Egypt, ushering in a transition period. Around 2200 to 1900 BCE, an abrupt climate change caused a widespread
Interesting since Iran has run out of water! People are rioting in the streets ! It's actually supposed to be their fault, not taking care ofresources.
Resource:
Academia: by Anatole Klyosov :"Origin of the Jews and the Arabs: Date of their Most Recent Common Ancestor is Written in their Y-Chromosomes - However, There Were Two of Them" by Anatole Klyosov: https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?tab=wm#inbox/FMfcgzQfBGbQmVztRhnxkJfqdsScMGjq
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDXnVq8Jx7w&t=227s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zYPmUPoWu0
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