Monday, August 15, 2022

Was There Ever A State of Palestine and Should There Be One Now? Part II

 Nadene Goldfoot                                           

       Aluf "General" Bar Kokhba Revolt 132-135 Over Jerusalem,                               beaten by the Romans.

The biggest errors by writers of history is that there was a state of Palestine.  There never was a state, but there was the land of Palestine which had been Judah, a state amid 11 others making up the 12 tribes of Israel that did become a state when King Saul ruled.  Judah was called "Palestine" in 135 by the Romans who were as mad as a wet hen that the Jews lasted for 3 years fighting over the control of Jerusalem. These angry Romans named the land for Israel's worst enemy, the Philistines for revenge. For 3 years they were kept at bay fighting a beaten people who almost beat them.  The Romans were mad.     

Roy Hicks, reporter of the Argus Observer in Ontario, Oregon made this mistake in his article of August 28, 2003, Enough is Enough,  when he referred to "The state of Palestine ceased to exist and the current state of Israel was established by the United Nations in 1948 under a treaty which guaranteed Jewish refugees fleeing the holocaust of World War II as miniature homeland they could call their own."  

That's how he understood the history, which is how others get misled, with other errors in that sentence.

Joan Peters nee Friedman b: 29 April 1936, d: 5 January 2015, journalist and broadcaster, 

Joan Peters, reporter, wrote a book called From Time Immemorial about the origins of the Arab-Jewish conflict over Palestine.  She was sympathetic to the Palestinian cause, and started to research and write about their plight.  Instead, everything she turned up showed that the victims in this story were the Jews, not the Arabs!  The Jews were blessed that this reporter worked with determination and brilliant detective work and patience.  She managed to unearth a foundation of factuality, research and commitment to the truth, and that was how the Toronto Star reflected upon her work. New York Times wrote:  "The massive research Ms Peters did...would have daunted Herculers.  In the course of it she turned up a great deal of interesting material from Ottoman records, the reports of Western consular officers and observant travelers and other sources. 

The thing that impressed me was that Joan shows the Arabs entering Palestine to work for the returning Jews who had commenced building projects, hoping to find jobs with them.  They streamed in from near and far with the majority from Syria.   

Well, she puts such PhDs as  Norman Finklestein and  Noam Chomsky to shame for their shoddy try at researching who attack her work because she's not a PhD.

"In From Time Immemorial (1984), she argued that Palestinians are largely not indigenous to modern Israel and therefore have no claim to its territory. The book, a best-seller, became controversial. Scholars and writers such as Norman FinkelsteinNoam ChomskyEdward Said Yehoshua Porath. and Ian and David Gilmour criticized it.

Peters died at her home in Chicago in 2015 of a cerebral embolism. Shortly before her death, the Israeli ambassador to the United NationsRon Prosor, telephoned to convey to her that Israel's prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu was deeply grateful for her work."

In the 1970s and early 1980s, Peters wrote for magazines such as Harper'sCommentaryThe New Republic, and The New Leader.  

Peters was born in Chicago. She studied at the University of Illinois without earning a degree and became a freelance writer for publications like Harper’s Magazine. She became "fascinated by the Middle East while covering the Yom Kippur War as a freelancer for CBS in 1973".

She was a consultant in the creation of CBS news documentaries in 1973 about the Israeli–Palestinian conflict, and provided commentary on the subject for PBS. Her dedication to the cause of Israel may have been triggered by a visit in the 1970s to the Soviet Union, where officials treated her and her husband with suspicion.

Through her thorough research, Peters was the first to expose the lie that is Palestinian refugeeism. Now that UNRWA—the U.N. agency for Palestinian refugees—is trying to fool the world into believing there are 5.2 million Palestinian refugees, it’s just the right time to return to Peters and her grand opus.


This book, if read by people truly interested in the subject, will change the mind of our generation.  If understood,, it could also affect the history of the future, so sayeth---New Republic. 

Arthur J. Goldberg, former Associate Justice , US Supreme Court said, "It is astonishing that From Time Immemorial is, to my knowledge, the first book in the English language whih tells the story of the expulsion of Jews from the Arab countries and the indifference of the world community to their plight.  Ms. Peter's book is must reading.  

"Of more than 850,000 Jews in Arab lands before Israel's statehood, few than 29,000 remain in 1984.  Many of the Arab states, as illustrated in the table above, have been rendered virtually judenrein (free of Jews--Hitler's term)." p. 116 in my pocket sized book.   With Israel's birth, Jews were virtually kicked out of the Arab states with nothing. They made tracks for Israel.   

Time has gone by, tiring our American presidents ever since Harry S. Truman recognized the birth  of Israel on May 14, 1948.  Each president has wondered what they can do with the Palestinian Arabs that the Jews of Israel were fighting defensively.  Immediately, to make matters more complicated, the Brits had handed over 80% of the Jewish Homeland to Prince Abdullah of Arabia because he wanted land to rule.  Then they decided to divide the 20% left for the Jews for another home for arabs, the Syrian Palestinians.  

  Leaders of the several Palestinian groups of Hamas and Fatah, mostly with terrorism background. Smart men but all for the 3 NOs of the 1967 Kartoum Conference:   no recognition of Israel, no negotiations with Israel and no peace with Israel. signed by the Arab League.   

Now, every year, we hear Europe and the USA clamoring for a 2 State Solution.  They do this knowing that these Palestinians living in Gaza, another piece of land Israel gave up for them, are shooting at Israelis from Gaza every day just about, at times thousands of rockets at a time over 3 or so days. That is rewarding a bad neighbor who wants to kill all the Jews  by giving into their demands, making it easier to drive the Jews into the sea.  

There is Fatah in Israel, Judea and Samaria, and Hamas of Gaza.  The leaders of Fatah and Hamas are not in agreement most of the time.  Hamas are actively terrorists, the past terrorist arm of Fatah, then they broke away completely.   

The governance of the Gaza Strip since the Hamas takeover of the Gaza Strip in June 2007 has been carried out by Hamas, which is often referred to as the Hamas government in Gaza. The Hamas administration was led by Ismail Haniyeh from 2007 to 2014 and again from 2016.

After Hamas won the Palestinian legislative elections on 25 January 2006, Ismail Haniyeh was nominated Prime Minister, establishing a Palestinian national unity government with Fatah. This government effectively collapsed with the outbreak of the violent conflict between Hamas and Fatah. After the takeover of the Gaza Strip by Hamas on 14 June 2007, Palestinian Authority Chairman PA--Abbas dismissed the Hamas-led government and appointed Salam Fayyad Prime Minister.

PA head Mahmoud Abbas b:15 November 1935,  reveals his anti-peace stance in attack against Israeli Arab politician:  Mahmoud Abbas, the head of the Palestinian Authority (PA), condemned Israeli Arab politician Mansour Abbas last month for saying that Israeli Arabs must accept the Jewish State of Israel as a fact of life.

Rockets have been raining down on Israel since Gaza was settled by the Arabs, and records are kept of every rocket aimed from there into Israel, which as been all too often. Records here are from 2001-2021. 

The Israeli Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center estimated that just in 2007 the proportions of rockets fired from the Gaza Strip were:

34% – Palestinian Islamic Jihad (Al Quds)
22% – Hamas (Qassam)
 8% – Fatah (Kafah)
 6% – Popular Resistance Committees (al Nasser)
30% – unknown

Abbas rules and either Ismail Haniyeh or Salam Fayyad are the rulers of today.  They can't agree on a ruler and the land they think is Palestine is in sections, not one piece of land.  These would be neighbors of Israel usually in arrears, owing Israel money for providing electricity and water and fuel.  They spend all  their money on ammunition and digging fancy tunnels to knock out Israel !!!  Lord, help us, and save us from people who just want to stop thinking about the 2 state solution  by creating it now !!!!

Now It's my turn, Roy Hicks, to say---Enough! In Hebrew it translates to Diy ein nu, a Passover  word. 

Read Joan Peter's book, From Time Immemorial and wise up.   Learn facts before you criticize Israel.  

There are 48 Muslim majority states in the world and only one Jewish one, Israel.  It's not like Muslims are being held prisoner in Gaza or Judea-Samaria or east Jerusalem.  I would think that Iran isn't a place any Muslim would want to go, as they are Shi'a and not Sunni, a rather big and political difference, otherwise, 47 to choose from.  


Resource:


From Time Immemorial by Joan Peters

Argus Observer newspaper of Ontario, Oregon, the country curmudgeon, Roy Hicks.  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joan_Peters

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Governance_of_the_Gaza_Strip 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmoud_Abbas

https://israeled.org/arab-league-signs-3-nos/#:~:text=The%20Arab%20League%20summit%20in,and%20no%20peace%20with%20Israel.

https://www.tv7israelnews.com/pa-head-mahmoud-abbas-reveals-his-anti-peace-stance-in-attack-against-israeli-arab-politician/

https://jewishwebsite.com/opinion/a-salute-to-joan-peters/33421/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_rocket_attacks_on_Israel






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