Showing posts with label peace talks. Show all posts
Showing posts with label peace talks. Show all posts

Wednesday, August 20, 2014

NO Negotiations Under Fire in Cairo

Nadene Goldfoot                                                                            

The 11th cease fire trial commenced. August 20th is the 45th day of Operation Protective Edge.   It was  5 day cease fire this time and was to be up Tuesday, August 19th at midnight.  Instead, Hamas broke it earlier at 4:00pm in the afternoon and commenced through midnight to fire 50 rockets.  6 of them were intercepted by the Iron Dome.  The rockets hit Tel Aviv and Jerusalem as well as other areas, so these were the long distance ones.

Because his country was under fire, Netanyahu ordered the Israeli delegation in Cairo to stop the talks and return home.  They were under attack.  They are not about to talk under fire.  Over 100 rockets were fired since midnight after that. The number now is up to 200 rockets.  Israel tried to take out the Hamas military leader, Mohammad Deif in an air strike, but possibly got his wife and son instead.  Netanyahu had told Hamas that he would strike back 7 times as hard if they kept firing rockets at Israel.  Hamas is vowing more strikes.

Mark Regev has been the spokesman for Israel on CNN and was called upon to explain this.  Israel had accepted the Egyptian plan on July 15th for there to be a complete cease fire, and then to have talks about the issues the Palestinian Arabs are now bringing up like border crossings.

They just don't seem to be able to sustain the required cease fire periods expected.  If they can't follow these directions, how is Israel to trust them to behave as normal people and grant such things as border crossings that no doubt would bring killers into their country?  A ceasefire, a complete cease fire is the foundation of talks.

The Palestinians retort back that Israel is dragging its feet.  They demand to have the borders opened.  Ugh, there's a reason for fences and gates with padlocks.  That's to keep invaders out, and the Palestinians haven't shown that they're anything but invaders trying to destroy this state of Israel.

Who's a big enough idiot to jump at the chance to allow all sorts of rights to a people who have been trying to destroy Israel since before 1958?  The Palestinians after 11 tries kept on breaking the cease fire period.  Imagine!

Resource: http://honestreporting.com/08202014-hamas-breaks-ceasefire/
http://www.timesofisrael.com/day-43-israel-confirms-truce-extended-by-24-hours-at-egypts-request/
http://www.timesofisrael.com/day-45-heavy-rocket-fire-on-south-as-israel-hits-gaza-pm-slams-rival-ministers/


Monday, July 7, 2014

The Terrorists From PFLP and Their Best Member -Leader: Riyad Al-Maliki

Nadene Goldfoot                                                
The Palestinian calling many of the shots is a prevaricator named Riyad Al-Maliki.  I call him that because he knows better.  He is saying that Israel may have fabricated the kidnapping of the 3 boys who had just left their school at the end of the day.  Fabricated?  Is that why their bodies were found bound 2 weeks afterwards  and that they were shot to death?  Was that part of the story?   He can't face that Israel is a Jewish nation on ancient Jewish soil or that this has happened.  This is a man on Fatah's side who sat in with Kerry on the peace talks between Israel and the Palestinians.  No wonder nothing came from that.

Riyad was a leading member of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, a terrorist group- the PFLP.  "It  is a Palestinian Marxist-Leninist and revolutionary leftist organization founded in 1967. It has consistently been the second-largest of the groups forming the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO), the largest being Fatah.. "  George Habash was the founder of this group till 2000.  Then Ahmad Sadat took over in 2001 till now.  They operate in Judea, Samaria (West Bank), Gaza, Syria and Lebanon.

Their call is one of nationalism through armed insurrection.  They refuse to recognize Israel and Maliki's  latest words show he is no different from them. They broke off from the PLO in 1974 for its "Stages Strategy, that is; "liberating"  Palestine in stages rather than in a single war, but later they rejoined the PLO which is now Fatah.  On their website is this statement that is so fallacious:

“The fascist terrorism of the occupation state and its rampant brutal criminality will not terrorize our people, will not deter us from demanding our legitimate rights to freedom, self-determination and return,” said the letter."    Return?  They have been gone?  The story they spin gets more convoluted all the time.  They already had a Palestine as of June 29th, yet they rant and rave on and on and keep attacking Jews in Jerusalem.  

What terrorism they committed was to initiate showcase, media-oriented attacks in the 1970 such as plane hijackings.  Shootings, bombing and suicide attacks were also committed and planned by them.  They assassinated the Israeli Tourism Minister, Rechavam Ze'evi on October 2001.  They also committed 8 suicide bombings from 2000 to 2005.  Out of their group they had 14 suicide bombers who were stopped and arrested in 2005. The PFLP was responsible for a suicide bomb that exploded on an Israeli bus on march 5, 2003.  17 people were killed on that bus and 53 were injured.   They had a suicide bomber attack a Tel Aviv bus station in 2006.

The PFLP were major players in the 1970s and 1980s, but PFLP and related groups were small and are considered minor players today.  What they have done is join up with Fatah and pretend to be followers of peaceful intentions, like Maliki.   Not on your life!

Maliki was important to PFLP because he was smart-and delusional.  Born in 1955, he's now nearing 60.  He was a civil engineer and has a PhD in engineering earned at American University.  Riyad has served Fatah as their former Minister of Information.  He's a main government spokesperson and was their Foreign Affairs chairman in their 12th government and today serving in that capacity in their 13th government.

Maliki seems to be following old party lines of PFLP.  "The PFLP has generally taken a hard line on Palestinian national aspirations, opposing the more moderate stance of Fatah. It opposes negotiations with the Israeli government, and favours a one-state solution to the Israeli–Palestinian conflict.  Splinter groups arae PPLF-GC (Popular Front for the LIberation of Palestine-the general command) , and DFLP (Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine.)

That could be why when interviewed, he said the issue most intractable between Israel and Palestine was the issue of recognizing the Jewish nature of the Israeli state.  To him is was a sharply contentious issue.  He couldn't do it because it would mean the Arab's acceptance of the dissolution of their own history and ties and their historic right to Palestine.

They are not about to accept that under any circumstances.  This would raise the question and fears about the fate of the 1.7 or 1.8 million Palestinians living in Israel.  He claims they are poor 2nd class citizens under Israel whereas this is a lie.  They are citizens just like all other Jewish citizens.  He want to know how they will be affected by the Judaization of the state.  He's oblivious of the fact that nothing is changing.  It was created as a Jewish state and has been operating as a Jewish state.  My, his head is full of delusions, and the Palestinians are faring just fine.

Then the big question arose out of his mouth.  "This also raises the questions about the Palestinian refugees and the right of return.    The Palestinians are even planning on renaming Jerusalem as Al-Quds and Hebron as Al-Khalil.  Of course Netanyahu said no to all of this; no right of return to be smothered by Palestinians and no to name-changing or to handing over east Jerusalem to the Palestinians for a capital.  They do have their Chutzpa, don't they?

Resource: http://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-may-have-fabricated-kidnapping-says-palestinian-fm/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riyad_al-Maliki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popular_Front_for_the_Liberation_of_Palestine
Magazine:  Israel 101 from StandWithUs page 27 on PFLP
http://pflp.ps/english/  They're active with this website.  

Sunday, October 6, 2013

The Acts of Hostility While Sitting at a Peace Table: Fatah Instigates Such Acts

Nadene Goldfoot                                                                          

There is something terribly wrong with the morality of our Palestinian neighbors living in Judea/Samaria, the ancient land of Israel and Judah  taken over illegally by Jordan in 1948 and renamed West Bank.  That land was to be a major piece of the Jewish Homeland that the League of Nations had decreed.  Though Muslims and Jews both believe in one G-d and have come from Abraham, we do not share the same ethics, evidently, especially in cases of disagreements.  As I remember, that was the problem long ago in our family history.

While one of two leaders of the Palestinians, Abbas, who is the leader in Judea/Samaria sits at a peace table with Israeli officials, his people praise a sniper of theirs who bravely shot a 9  year old little Jewish girl as she played in her own front yard in Psagot right in her neck at close range (corrected-first account had said stomach)..   Obviously, he is out hunting Jews!    Two weeks before, this sniper had killed an Israeli soldier in Hebron.  Israel has soldiers there to patrol the streets in order to keep the peace.  These very young IDF soldiers of the Givate Brigade are so inhuman to this city that they were caught on television partying with Palestinian friends there in a club and dancing  with them Gangnam style in August.  They want to just live a normal life, too and are friendly.

The sniper is looked upon as a hero by the Palestinians. This is posted by a page administrator of a Palestinian page on facebook. It's called "Fatah"  and the main page is the official Fatah Facebook page.  They define it as belonging to the Fatah Mobilization and Organization Commission.  Each commission has their own official website.   His killing in this manner was called his work.  This "sniper of Palestine" is simply a nasty killer that preys on innocent people.  The soldier wasn't shooting anyone.  He wasn't killing during an attack of war between soldiers.  Most likely he was just walking on his patrol.  I hope he wasn't dancing in the street at the time.  


The blame lies with the Palestinian Authority and the desk of Abbas where the buck should stop.  The Palestinian media acts of continual incitement of their people will never bring a peaceful conclusion for them.  What Fatah and the Palestinian Authority do is engage is glorification of terrorists and their acts.  The people have been taught to hate Jews and that Israel doesn't exist for them.  They are being taught that this is their duty, to hate and kill Israelis.

PMW tells us that Abu Sukkar killed 15 Israelis with a bomb so the PA held a memorial for him and it was Abbas who stated that "Fatah lost a beacon", meaning a wonderful person who was so great to kill Jews..

It's very plain that though Fatah has taken on the stance of being a possible peace partner when it suits them to snow their Western listeners,  they have no intention of doing so.  They're just trying to show Hamas that they can get a state before they will who have chosen constant bombardment on southern Israel.  You can't say you're going to live in an area and follow the rules of conduct while you tell your family members that they're in a Hatfield-McCoy world and that they must always attack and hate Israel.  This will have to be one sniper who will not get released from prison in any peace negotiations!

What type of people take pride in committing such acts of brutality like killing children in cold blood?  This just recalls the horrendous slaughtering by Palestinian killers of Israelis living in Judea and Samaria.  In March 2011, the whole Fogel family in Itamar were knifed to death.  Udi, 37, Ruth, 36, and their 3 children ages 10, 4 and 3 months were slaughtered.  Such acts only hardens the hearts of the Jews and makes them see the Arabs as terrible enemies.

Whereas Israel has 1.7 million Arabs living in Israel peacefully as citizens, the future Palestine is planning on having no Jew live in their special country, which will be one of 23 Muslim majority states of the Middle East.  The competitors of Christianity already have  48 Muslim majority states as it is.   Israel is the only Jewish state in the world.  It is galling that there are those who continue to post ridiculous articles calling Israel the Apartheids.  Such thinking has not one iota of  logic in their propaganda  and goes along with saying that a brutal killer is a hero.

Reference:  Palestinian Media Watch; PMW Bulletins; Fatah praises terrorist shooter of 9 year old by Itamar Marcus and Nan Jacques Zilberdik, facebook page, the main page, October 6, 2013.
http://www.jpost.com/Defense/Report-IDF-soldiers-left-patrol-to-party-with-Palestinians-in-Hebron-club-324605
http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/victims-of-west-bank-settlement-attack-identified-as-fogel-family-1.348788
http://www.algemeiner.com/2013/10/04/analysts-hamas-fatah-split-elephant-in-the-room-for-israel-peace-talks/ added 10/6/13 

Thursday, August 1, 2013

Peace Talks of 2 Days and Israel's 2nd Holy City, Hebron, is Threatened

Nadene Goldfoot                                                               


Hebron is a large city in Judea, lying only 19 miles south of Jerusalem.  It is in land that the Palestinians want as their state.  Judea and Samaria as well as East Jerusalem were won back after being taken illegally in 1948 by Jordan.  Jordan made the mistake of complying with the other Arab nations when they attacked Israel in 1967.  The Arabs lost and Israel was able to claim the return of their promised land which was part of the already decided Jewish National Homeland.

250,000 Arabs live there and about 800 Jews.  The Arabs live in section H1 which has been controlled or ruled by the PA, and the old city, H2, which makes up 20% of Hebron, is where the Jews live.  In the bible, Hebron is also called Kiriath Arba.

Abraham had bought a plot of land called the Cave of Machpelah in Hebron from the Hittites so he had a place to bury his wife, Sarah.  Today a mosque stands there.  Muslims came around 630 CE and were in control then.  Joshua was appointed by Moses to lead the Israelites and it became a Levitical city, a city of refuge.  King David ruled there for 7 1/2 years before deciding on Jerusalem to be his capital.  Jews have maintained a community in Hebron through the Byzantine, Arab, Mameluke and Ottoman Empire.  It has been one of 4 holy cities in Israel;  Jeusalem, Hebron, Tiberias and Safed.  By 1890, there were 1,500 Jews who had yeshivot and religious schools established there.  In 1925, the great Lithuanian yeshivah of Slobodka was transferred there.

Along came 1929 when the stock market crashed in the USA.  It was then that the Arabs massacred 700  Jews in Hebron and then most of the survivors fled to Jerusalem.   30 families returned in 1931.  Arab rioting occurred in 1936 when it was known that Jews were facing anti-Semitism in Germany. There were 38,310 Jews living in Hebron in 1967 before the attack on Israel and afterwards, with Israel being the victor, more settled in Hebron creating Kiryat Arba, a new quarter east of the city.  There were 3,700 Jews in 1988.
                                                                         
                                                   Jewish Section of Hebron, the Old City

Hebron's spokesman, David Wilder, has been an official for the city's Jewish community for about 18 years and has never said that in order for Jews to continue living in Hebron, the city must be rid of its Arab population.  However, this is how Abbas (Abu Mazen), president of the Palestinian Authority,  has said  about taking over Judea, Samaria and Jerusalem.  He doesn't even mention "east" Jerusalem in his comments. He said, "In a final resolution, we would not see the presence of a single Israeli-civilian or soldier-on our lands.

In 2010 he was quote as saying to reporters in Ramallah, "We have frankly said, and always will say:  If there is an independent Palestinian state with Jerusalem as its capital, we won't agree to the presence of one Israeli in it."

This is what we have to look forward to thanks to John Kerry and our United States partnership, who must know more than I do for pushing this peace discussion with such belligerent folk.  It's getting nauseating already.

Does Kerry and Obama realize that Mahmoud Abbas, the man 55 year old Tzippi Livni, Israeli negotiator who is the newly appointed Minister of Justice, has to talk to, honored a terrorist leader with their "Star of Honor" decoration for Jewish killings in the 1970's ?  Nayef Hawatmeh is the leader of the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine (DELP.  They were the group that carried out many deadly terrorist attacks like the killing of 22 schoolchildren and 4 adults after taking them hostage in Ma'alot.  They killed 9 children and 3 adults in an attack on a school bus.  This group is responsible for killing 7 more people in a Jerusalem bombing.  An apartment building in Beit Shean was attacked and 4 people were taken hostage by the DELP terrorists who then killed them.

50 Jews had been shot by Arab on their own street.  Among those shot was a baby that was targeted by sharpshooters in it's baby carriage.  This is the sort of people that the Palestinians are-to shoot a baby on purpose is unfathomable. For such behaviors, they are honored by their leaders.

In order to give in to Palestinian demands which seem okay to Kerry, Israel is forced to release killers out of prison.  Israel has kowtowed to such demands in the past and has learned what happens.  6,912 militant terrorists were released because of such demands between the years of 1993 and 1999.  About 80% have returned to terrorist activity.  Released killers have killed 177 Israelis.

David Wilder feels that Hebron, Beit El, Elon Moreh, then Jerusalem, Tel Aviv, Beer Sheva and Haifa are cities that the Palestinians will want to take over.  This goes along with the charter of the Muslim Brotherhood and Hamas.  Speeches from the Palestinians are very direct about it.  Faisel Husseini, their former Palestinian leader who died in 2001 had declared, "Our final aim is the liberation of all of historical Palestine, from the river to the sea, even if the conflict continues for a thousand years, or for many more generations."  Husseini thought that the Oslo accords were a "Palestinian Trojan horse that created the PLO and Yasser Arafat in the territories.  To him this worked as an ambush of sorts that paved the way to the present Intifada.

These are not nice people just wanting to move into the next door apartment and are being stopped because they all speak Arabic, which is about the only situation that Americans have dealt with in their environment.  The UN and the USA could have been much more realistic and could have put themselves in Israel's shoes to understand what they are expecting.

David mentions  in his essay of yesterday, "No 'rules' or 'red lines', that if it is called "racism" to talk about transfer or expulsion of Arabs, it's the same thing to talk about doing it to Jews.  If John Kerry thinks it's okay to talk about moving Jews off of their legal land, Jews could also talk about moving Arabs.  If Israel can't eject Arabs, you also can't eject Jews off of their legal land.  This goes for the whole state of Israel.  It's not up for grabs.

How can Kerry sit there and listen to talk of creating this new Palestine which would be free of all Jews when Israel without any outside pressure never thought of creating their state exclusive of Arabs.  There are 1.7 million Arabs living in Israel as full citizens.  They are in the Knesset and Parliament.

Israel has had to deal with a few lemons.   "There are Arab MKs that even represent Hamas, Hizballah, Syria and the PA working passively and actively against the State of Israel."  MK Haneen Zoabi, an Arab, was a participant on the Gaza flotilla Mavi Marmara.  He helped terrorists who were trying to kill the Israeli soldiers whose job it was to board and inspect.   Former MK Azmi Bishara ran away from Israel just before being arrested for treason for passing military secrets to the enemy during the war in Lebanon.  MK Ahmad Tibi  told his peers that he was a Palestinian patriot whether you like it or not. This is much harsher than what the Democrats and Republicans have had to deal with in Congress.  If these are citizens, what in the world will life be like with Palestinians taking over East Jerusalem 9 months from now?

We all wonder why it is that the EU, UN or any other group condemning Abbas for the Palestinian goals for their new state.  Is this now the accepted norm for states?  Anything that is decided on during these 9 months must be voted on by the Israeli public and they are not going to abide by such demented outcomes.  Tsippi Livni not only has to appease or please the Palestinians, but she will be wasting everyone's time if she doesn't know her own people's fears and expectations.  Israelis have learned from past mistakes.  It's insanity to keep on repeating them. David Wilder has summed it all up.

Rule #1:  There are no rules.  There aren't any red lines.  Anything and everything goes.

Everything can also come to Hebron, such as tourism today.  Dr. Oz, a Muslim, and his friend, Rabbi Shmuley Boteach danced the hora in Hebron in their first visit to Israel. That's a very happy dance done in weddings and bar mitzvas.    Dr. Oz is the author of many books as well as is a TV personality in the USA.  We'll all dance the hora if nothing happens to Hebron.  Right now the community probably feels like mourning .

This ancient Holy Jewish city is being threatened by the future Judenrein state of Palestine's creation.  Jews have lost a lot of blood over this city and it will not cede it easily.  The demands of a Palestine are outragous and completely unnecessary.  This city has been safe even for tourism since it is under Israel's dominion once again where the PA are controlling the government.   Israel has been living  with 1.7 million Arabs.  Why can't the Palestinians live with Jews?     Even Egypt has realized that Muslim Brotherhood goals are not workable.

Resource: Essay by David Wilder of Hebron hebron.mail-owner@lists.hebron.org.il:  http://www.israelnationalnews.com/blogs/blog.aspx/9#.UfqZOdKOTqE
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebron
New Jewish Encyclopedia; Hebron
http://www.pi-news.org/2010/07/hebron-400-jews-and-200-000-arabs/
http://www.jpost.com/Jewish-World/Jewish-Features/Rabbi-Shmuley-Boteach-and-Dr-Oz-dance-the-hora-in-Hebron-321550
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/vie/Hebron.html