Nadene Goldfoot
A most interesting book came out in 1997 called THE BIBLE CODE and was written by Michael Drosnin. This code was discovered by a Jewish Israeli mathematician, Dr. Eliahu Rips, who presented his proof in a major science journal, and had been confirmed by many other famous mathematicians around the world It was published by Simon and Schuster in New York.
The man who wrote 3 books about this discovery was Michael Drosnin, and he put it on the map with his books. His 2nd book was copyrighted in 2002. The 3rd was in 2010. I have all three.
Last night, the History Channel presented a 2 hour program about a copy of this discovery that was not from Israel. Another book has just been written about finding a code within the Bible and by using the Hebrew letters, as Rips had done.
AFTER VIEWING THE 2 hour PROGRAM: 6pm Monday evening
To the uninitiated, a Jewish scribe or SOPHER of Hebrew takes more than great pains to not make a mistake. If one errs in the printing, the whole piece is thrown out. "The tractate Sopherim, an addition to the Babylonian Talmud, describes the rules for writing sacred documents. Thus, a Torah or Tanakh (Old Testament)'s Hebrew should be the very same whenever it was written. Not one letter can be ever changed.
The TV program, God Code, didn't know this. Timothy Smith spends much of the time looking for the oldest and therefore more accurate copy of the Torah or Bible. He comes upon the Lenningrad Codex. Then he comes upon the Aleppo Codex found in Syria. Aleppo had been dominated by Jews at one time, so I'm not surprised at this. Tim insists he found the code for where the Ark of the Covenant has been hidden, and the words are not the same in other bible copies, so he said.
Tim has lots of time on his hands but says he has no time and is in a hurry to find the Ark. His brother just happens to be a cryptologist and the two of them evidently create his own computer program to find the codes. it's amazing what our government is turning out today as cryptologists and what they can do quickly that took Dr. Rips years to do with all his mathematical background. So now they have their own God-code software.
Finally, he and another fellow, Cannun Tigay, visited Jerusalem and came upon Don Esposito, a biblical scholar, who is highly impressed with Smith's findings. They find an archaeologist who goes along with their thinking, but it leads to the Gihon Spring in Jerusalem where Smith thinks Solomon's Temple actually existed. After this visit, the archaeologist speaks of David's use of the Spring, and he realizes it must be what David used as a Temple before King Solomon, his son, had built his Temple. Tim leaves us thinking that very soon the Ark of the Covenant will show up around there. The only problem is that the men have hit bedrock and feel there's nothing under it. Tim may have other ideas. If Tim has his way, we would have peace on the Temple Mount because the Temple was never there, according to his findings. He disregards or never knew about King Herod who repaired the 2nd Temple which was at the Temple Mount of which we are left with THE WALL- the famous Wailing Wall. He probably wants to disregard any archaeological findings or the fact that the Palestinians have left evidence of digging under the Temple Mount and discarding any shards of evidence being they were given charge of the Temple Mount by Moshe Dayan in 1967.
I'm afraid that I'm old fashioned and understand that our Holy Hebrew writings have not varied in their hand-written texts. The rules have been steadfast. I need a professional scribe-a rabbi to tell me any different. Luckily, I do know a Chabad rabbi who happens to be a sopher, one of his talents. I trust that our rabbis, historians and scientists know the whereabouts of King Solomon's Temple and have known ever since they returned from Babylon when they rebuilt it. The problem with it's position is that it was to be built on the spot of the threshing floor where David was instructed to build an altar to the Lord! It is also significant that this is the location of Mount Moriah and the offering of Isaac by Abraham (Gen 22). In fact Jerusalem’s Temple Mount on Mount Moriah, known as Har HaBayit in Hebrew (Mountain of the House [of the Lord]) has been the most disputed threshing floor in the world for thousands of years. So Tim has his own ideas of where it stood without checking previous facts.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eliyahu_Rips https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kByPKXLmu0 MICHAEL DROSNIN EXPLAINS
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| 3rd book published by Worldmedia, USA by Michael Drosnin |
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| 2nd book published by Penguin Group, New York |
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| The 1st book published by Simon and Schuster |
A most interesting book came out in 1997 called THE BIBLE CODE and was written by Michael Drosnin. This code was discovered by a Jewish Israeli mathematician, Dr. Eliahu Rips, who presented his proof in a major science journal, and had been confirmed by many other famous mathematicians around the world It was published by Simon and Schuster in New York.
The man who wrote 3 books about this discovery was Michael Drosnin, and he put it on the map with his books. His 2nd book was copyrighted in 2002. The 3rd was in 2010. I have all three.
Last night, the History Channel presented a 2 hour program about a copy of this discovery that was not from Israel. Another book has just been written about finding a code within the Bible and by using the Hebrew letters, as Rips had done.
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| published by Christianbook.com. . |
'God Code' Makes History (Channel)
Feb 27, 2018
The History Channel will air a documentary, God Code, on April 8 based on Timothy P. Smith’s book asserting that ancient Hebrew texts are encrypted with a code that proves God authored the Bible. According to the publisher, WaterBrook, the book, originally published in 2017 as The Chamberlain Key, is being reissued March 6 in paperback with its title changed to match the title of the documentary: God Code: Unlocking Divine Messages Hidden in the Bible.
Sounded interesting. I've got all the books about finding a code. (1997) Wonder if this is the same as the one found by mathematician, Dr. Eliyahu Rips, in Israel as told by author Michael Drosnin. Drosnin met with famous mathematicians at Harvard, Yale, and Hebrew University in Jerusalem. He talked to a senior code-breaker at the top secret US National Security Agency, who confirmed that there is a code in the Bible that does reveal the future. So what this G-d code is, and who Smith is, is for us to find out tonight.
Well, I watched the first 1/2 hour and was disgusted. It's a direct copy of Dr. Eliahu Rips' work. What a copycat! Except, they didn't present the same findings that Rips had found, of course. Smith is probably not Jewish nor Israeli and has a Christian outlook about G-d and religion and was probably working with the hope of finding proof about Jesus, and he presented the word "Jesus" within that first 1/2 hour. What he presented was not the word "Jesus" but his allusion to the idea. Translating Hebrew into English was done by him and not a Hebrew dictionary, I'm afraid, and also so was the alluding to prove his theory. To me, what he said and what was there did not compute.
I'll try to force myself to watch the whole program. My cousin did watch as she worked on her packing last night, and told me that they came up with proof of where the ark of the covenant is hidden. "The Ark of the Covenant, also known as the Ark of the Testimony, is a gold-covered wooden chest with lid cover described in the Book of Exodus as containing the two stone tablets of the Ten Commandments."
I had just been reading about it early yesterday evening, perhaps from an article I found on facebook, that mentioned it has never been found and nothing was known about its whereabouts. It had been found to have had scientific properties, what I cannot recall, like electric currents. So now Mr. Smith knows just where it is. My! It's coded.
I think you can see that I think very little of someone who steals another's work and doesn't even give Rips or Drosnin a mention. To me, this is plagiarism. Plagiarism is: to steal and pass off (the ideas or words of another) as one's own. to use (another's production) without crediting the source. to commit literary theft. All he had to do was to use google and enter "bible code" and the books would have come up. I have a strong feeling that Smith was well aware of Drosnin's books and had decided to revisit such a thing as a bible code only to come up with a Christian version this time.
Before my husband and I had moved to Israel in 1980, we had heard of a search that was coming to an end of finding a code in the bible. We were looking forward to hearing more about it after moving there, and we did. In the first 1/2 hour of the program, they stole the passage right out of Drosnin's book telling about the history of the world's search for a code in the bible.
Michael Drosnin was really a reporter, and had been with the Washington Post and the Wall Street Journal, two very different venues. He's a New Yorker.
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| "Eliyahu Rips, also Ilya Rips (Hebrew: אליהו ריפס; Russian: Илья Рипс; Latvian: Iļja Ripss; born 12 December 1948) is an Israeli mathematician of Latvian origin known for his research in geometric group theory. He became known to the general public following his coauthoring a paper on what is popularly known as Bible code, the supposed coded messaging in the Hebrew text of the Torah." The 5 Books of Moses-Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy. |
"Dr. Eliyahu Rips is one of the world's leading experts in group theory, a field of mathematics that underlies quantum physics. Rip's code had been replicated by a senior code-baker at the US Department of Defense. It also passed 3 levels of secular peer review at a leading US math journal. Drosnin is not a religious Jew and said he would be the first to dismiss it as millennium fever. He had known about it for 5 years, himself and then sent many weeks with Dr. Rips. This got him to study Hebrew! He even checked the code on his own computer every day. The man at the Defense Department (who?) independently confirmed that the Bible code does exist. Drosnin then went to Harvard, Yale and Hebrew University in Jerusalem to meet with 3 of the world's most famous mathematicians,( also having given their names). They all confirmed that there is a code in the Bible that reveals the future.
"Rips grew up in Latvia (then part of Soviet Union), formerly part of the Pale of Settlement set off by Catherine II. His mother was Jewish and from Riga, the only of nine siblings that survived the war; the others were killed in Rumbula and other places. His father Aaron was a Jewish mathematician from Belarus;(also part of the Pale of Settlement) his wife, children and all of his relatives were killed during The Holocaust." Rips was a genius who survived-another miracle.
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| Michael Drosnin |
You can see that Drosnin was not going to write up a fake news story or book, but disappoints me in not giving important names. I don't like alluding to a fact without being factual. My point is in being that my own brother, a Phd, was not impressed with Rips's code or seriousness of it. My brother knows a lot more about Math than I with my ability to teach Math to pass the GED. He showed me how you can also take the book, Moby Dick, and do the same thing, find messages. However, what I realize is that Rips's code is covering THE TORAH talking about very sacred things and that a code is uncovered on top of it telling of something of value-possibly even relating to it. I don't think that happened in Moby Dick.
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| From Drosnin's Book I The Bible Code |
The Religious folk would probably like to remind us all that the Torah was given to Moses by G-d. To me, Moses was the receiver, and how he received such facts that have lived for over 3,000 years was an amazing process, especially over 3,000 years ago when man was far more primitive than we are today. At least I don't think all the dendrites we have in our brain were exercised and developed as they are are today, expect maybe in Moses's exception. To have received such facts and to write them all down and carry them out at his age of 80 was miraculous. It wasn't like Moses was being delusional hearing voices that told him what to do and that those things were crazy things like killing people. Moses wasn't being Schizophenic at the age of 80, a disease that may not have even existed back then. The message had come to him and he acted and the world has benefited. The messages were so logical that we are still in awe of them.
Think what it would be like without his messages? Where would we still be? Fighting over whose god was the best? strongest? giving the most coverage? More parents would be killed by their own children. There would be no day of rest. Murder would not even raise an eyebrow-it would be expected. Robbery would be part of your culture. There would be no courts or lawyers as all acts now thought of as evil would be expected by everyone. It would be expected to covet what your neighbor has. Salesmen would be peddling images to bring good luck to your home. If you're a pirate at heart, this might be appealing to you. To most of us, we think this is normally abhorrent to all, but ask your local policeman. There are still people trying to get away with all of this. Living in a safe environment is still our number 1 priority in life.
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| Education is the key. This is a yeshiva where they learn the pros and cons of the arguments about our Torah and rest of Bible. We don't take much for granted. We argue We look at all the ramifications and have brilliant minds work on it. It's a skill worked on for about 4 thousand years. |
Rabbis have studied the Torah in large groups and have debated the meaning and wordage of each detail, so it is not something one can scan quickly and get everything out of it. Such names a RASHI and Hillel come to mind. These rabbis have shown how Hammurabi, a Babylonian king way back in 1728-1686 BCE and his legal code were improved on by Moses's 613 laws. As it turns out, Moses was a Cohen, and no doubt that Abraham was his ancestor, also a Cohen. G-d had chosen well. It wasn't by accident that he, of all the new-born babies marked for slaughter by the Pharaoh was saved-and by the Pharaoh's own daughter.
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| The extension of the ELS for יהי אור contains the words ביום (in the day) and למאור (for a luminary): |
What may seem negligible to people today was pretty awesome and new to people under the care of Moses. They had been compartmentalized as slaves for almost 400 years without communication with the rest of the world. They knew what they had learned originally from Jacob's family of what Abraham had taught them about G-d and their behaviors, and how they were treated as slaves and that was it; working and slaving every day of their life until they dropped dead. What they were told by Moses was indeed a revelation. They lived in a world where those around them were pagans believing in idols and universes of gods which they didn't, having learned that already but...400 years ago. We know that today our environment and peer group makes huge impressions on our children. How much had affected them? Lots, we shall find out as we read from our prophets.
Amazing and straight forward pieces of information have come from Rips' Bible Code. Words discovered in one section was: Twin Towers Airplane. Looking further in this panel included: Twin Towers It Knocked Down Twice Airplane The letters for airplane used were shin/or sin, vuv, tet, mem sofeit which spells in Hebrew matos-matoseem. Remember, this is a skip formation of selecting letters and this word was on the diagonal found on page 3 in Bible Code II-The Countdown. Even seeing the Hebrew word AIRPLANE -matos-on the diagonal in a pattern was thrilling let alone the rest of it, to me.
It's a fantastic discovery.
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Alexander Rotenberg
Alexander Rotenberg received his Ph.D degree in mathematics in the field of Probability Theory and Dynamical Systems in 1973 at the Moscow State University. After his aliyah to Israel in 1990, Dr. Rotenberg became familiar with Torah codes. This phenomena seemed so striking to him that he felt a need to independently investigate it on his own. He systematically investigated the way in which Torah commentators such as Rashi, The Ba'al HaTurim, and Rabbeinu Bachayay have the key words of their explanations appearing as ELSs near by the verses being explained. He authored a book And All This Is Truth detailing many of his findings.
Dr. Rotenberg is a descendaent of the Gaon of Radishkovich and a relative, by marriage, to the descendents of the Vilna Gaon.
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Dr. Rips had developed his computer program with his colleague, Dr. Alexander Rotenberg. Books II and III go into more than the Torah. With the advent of computers, breaking the code is possible. Drosnin warned Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin that it said he would be assassinated and he was. September 11, 2001 was foreseen when the Twin Towers fell.
What amazes me is that these two mathematicians are also devoutly religious Jews. I think that the more they learned, the more awed they were at the complexity of our universe and in the probability that only G-d could have masterminded such a place. It made them more, not less religious.
The TV program, God Code, didn't know this. Timothy Smith spends much of the time looking for the oldest and therefore more accurate copy of the Torah or Bible. He comes upon the Lenningrad Codex. Then he comes upon the Aleppo Codex found in Syria. Aleppo had been dominated by Jews at one time, so I'm not surprised at this. Tim insists he found the code for where the Ark of the Covenant has been hidden, and the words are not the same in other bible copies, so he said.
Tim has lots of time on his hands but says he has no time and is in a hurry to find the Ark. His brother just happens to be a cryptologist and the two of them evidently create his own computer program to find the codes. it's amazing what our government is turning out today as cryptologists and what they can do quickly that took Dr. Rips years to do with all his mathematical background. So now they have their own God-code software.
Finally, he and another fellow, Cannun Tigay, visited Jerusalem and came upon Don Esposito, a biblical scholar, who is highly impressed with Smith's findings. They find an archaeologist who goes along with their thinking, but it leads to the Gihon Spring in Jerusalem where Smith thinks Solomon's Temple actually existed. After this visit, the archaeologist speaks of David's use of the Spring, and he realizes it must be what David used as a Temple before King Solomon, his son, had built his Temple. Tim leaves us thinking that very soon the Ark of the Covenant will show up around there. The only problem is that the men have hit bedrock and feel there's nothing under it. Tim may have other ideas. If Tim has his way, we would have peace on the Temple Mount because the Temple was never there, according to his findings. He disregards or never knew about King Herod who repaired the 2nd Temple which was at the Temple Mount of which we are left with THE WALL- the famous Wailing Wall. He probably wants to disregard any archaeological findings or the fact that the Palestinians have left evidence of digging under the Temple Mount and discarding any shards of evidence being they were given charge of the Temple Mount by Moshe Dayan in 1967.
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| 2nd Temple of Solomon built after return from Babylon 538 BCE |
I'm afraid that I'm old fashioned and understand that our Holy Hebrew writings have not varied in their hand-written texts. The rules have been steadfast. I need a professional scribe-a rabbi to tell me any different. Luckily, I do know a Chabad rabbi who happens to be a sopher, one of his talents. I trust that our rabbis, historians and scientists know the whereabouts of King Solomon's Temple and have known ever since they returned from Babylon when they rebuilt it. The problem with it's position is that it was to be built on the spot of the threshing floor where David was instructed to build an altar to the Lord! It is also significant that this is the location of Mount Moriah and the offering of Isaac by Abraham (Gen 22). In fact Jerusalem’s Temple Mount on Mount Moriah, known as Har HaBayit in Hebrew (Mountain of the House [of the Lord]) has been the most disputed threshing floor in the world for thousands of years. So Tim has his own ideas of where it stood without checking previous facts.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eliyahu_Rips https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kByPKXLmu0 MICHAEL DROSNIN EXPLAINS
Research:http://jewishfactsfromportland.blogspot.com/2011/07/dr-eliahu-rips-and-his-bible-code.html
Bible Code books I, II, III by Michael Drosnin
God Code by Timothy P. Smith
the New Standard Jewish Encyclopedia
http://jewishfactsfromportland.blogspot.com/2011/07/al-qaeda-osama-bin-ladens-empire-at.html
the New Standard Jewish Encyclopedia
http://jewishfactsfromportland.blogspot.com/2011/07/al-qaeda-osama-bin-ladens-empire-at.html
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