Tuesday, July 15, 2025

Our DNA Jewish Bottleneck

 Nadene Goldfoot                                                 

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Haplogroup J1-M267, commonly found in Jewish populations, has a complex history and is associated with both Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jewish lineagesWhile not exclusive to Jewish people, it is a significant haplogroup within the Jewish community, particularly among those with priestly (Cohen) ancestry. The haplogroup's origins are traced back to West Asia, with some branches migrating south to the Levant and Arabian Peninsula.  

       By the River of Babylon  the Biblical Psalm 137:1–4, a hymn expressing the lamentations of the Jewish people in exile following the Babylonian conquest of Jerusalem in 586 BCE: Previously the Kingdom of Israel, after being united under Kings David and Solomon, had been split in two, with the Kingdom of Israel in the north, conquered by the Assyrians in 722 BC which caused the dispersion of 10 of the 12 tribes of Israel.

Ashkenazis and Sephardis came from the same source before 70 CE when Jerusalem was not only occupied earlier by the Romans but attacked by them as well, taking slaves and burning down the Temple.  Jews were not allowed re-admittance later upon pain of death.  It was for the Romans, and then all the conquering people who came after them.  The remaining Jews scattered to Spain and became the Sephardis; while the others were either taken or perhaps had already been in Germany on trading expeditions, becoming the Ashkenazis.  I wondered since a few "Rabbis" had been fore-warned and left Jerusalem earlier if they didn't lead their followers to Spain. Again, some may have been there before, on trading trips and knew it was a place to find refuge.  Then again, some found refuge in nearby communities of land in Syria, Iraq, Egypt, Lebanon, etc.   

Assyrians were pretty close to the kingdom of Judah, formed after King Solomon died with his son, Rehoboam (933-917 BCE) as the next king.  Zedekiah was the last king (597-586 BCE)

 The Assyrians attacked the state of Judah and took the 10 northern tribes away in 721 BCE. Sargon had annexed the country and deported 27,290 Israelites to Assyria and Media, replacing them with Syrian and Babylonian prisoners.  That's the ancient kind of deal heads of state made in those days.

What did these Syrian and Babylonians do to become prisoners, I wonder?  Were the trophies of war by Assyria, too?  Why weren't they kept by the Assyrians?  Why did the Assyrian Sargon want our Judeans?  All these thoughts run through my mind, as now, we have new people in the place of ours.  How did that ever work?  


Then, 124 years later,  Nebuchadnezzar of the Babylonians attacked in 597 BCE and again in 586 BCE.  He exiled 8,000 of the local aristocracy to Babylon in 597 BCE, captured Jerusalem,  and destroyed the Temple of Solomon.

These are the people we Jews came from;  those who remained in Judah including a few from Benjamin and Simeon and these prisoners brought in by Sargon and by Nebuchadnezzer.   Our state among a group of 12 others, all related to each other from the very origin had been a tribe of 12 brothers.  We Jews were from Judah, a few from Benjamin and a few from Simeon.  Mostly we were Judeans.  Jerusalem is in Judah.  We Jews are the indigenous Judeans remaining from quite a bottleneck of DNA. 

Some Jews were allowed back to Judah from Babylonia by the king, a possible grandson of Queen Esther.  Not all wanted to return, however.  They were the ones who were willing to repair the Temple and take their life back of what their grandparents had.  They would have been some of the spilled bottle of DNA returning.

 King Cyrus the Great of Persia was responsible for ending the Babylonian Captivity and allowing the Jewish exiles to return to their homeland in Judah. This occurred in 538 BCE, shortly after Cyrus conquered Babylon, after 48 years of captivity.   (Update 11:09am) and again at 4:16 pm.  

                                    

Many of us have already taken DNA testing proving our heritage.  Our Cohens are J1.  My father, a son of 2 Ashkenazi Jews, was not.  His Y line was Q1b1 that graduated to be QBZ67.  That line came originally from Siberia and Mongolia areas, then connected up with the Native Americans sometime back of North and South America, but our line veered into the Middle East and Judah at some point.  I'm not sure if we made it as becoming the "others" who remained with the family of Jacob in Egypt during their 400 years or not, but they became a Jewish line.  I am related to Rashi, as discovered on an ancient genealogy of a 3rd cousin as well as even matching up with Netanyahu's mother's Mtdna line and all my 1st cousins of 100% Jewish parentage.  

J1 and J2 are found in the Cohens who are a major large group of Jews today and come from Aaron, brother of Moses. It started in Western Asia. They are found towards the middle of this chart who showed up in our history with Aaron, who was a little older than Moses (1391-1271 BCE).  (see below), being a little more than 3,000 years ago.   It's been found that most Cohens, people with this title as a surname, or actual Cohens serving in this capacity in the synagogue which is divided into the Cohens, Levites and Israelites, are J1 or J2.  I just found out that a Hochfeld has been a Cohen in the synagogue all his life, and just recently had been tested.  Sure enough, he was a J1, also labeled as J-M267.  Fathers have been telling their sons that they are Cohens and what the duties are that are expected of them.  Evidently it's worked through this oral tradition, handed down from Aaron  well over 3,000 years ago.  J's actually started 48,000 years ago.  Aaron was a newbee on the J tree.  

The Torah has been proven true through the haplogroup, for Arabs also bear the J1 haplogroup as well, with a slightly different tag ending on this scientific label showing its unique history.  

An Arab friend of mine also smitten by DNA testing is J1c3d, I believe it was, same as many Jewish J1.   J1-M267 is the major haplogroup of the Arabs.  Beduins of Kuwait carry the highest amount. Then there are the  Arab Bedouins that carry a very high percent  of J.

J1 haplogroup is found to have arisen 10,000 to 15,000 years ago in the Fertile Crescent, and Abraham was born only about 4,000 years ago. He is mentioned in Genesis, living in about the 2nd millennium BCE. His father was Terah and was unhappy with his life in Ur in about 2,000 BCE. and left Ur, which was part of the Sumerian civilization. Besides Jews, Arabs, Armenians and Kurds are found in this haplogroup. Interestingly, Kurds are still living in Iraq, even though Saddam Hussein gassed many of them. Kurds have the closest dna to most Jewish men.  The highest frequencies are in Iran and Iraq. It was carried by traders into Europe, Central Asia, India, and Pakistan. Most likely traders could have been Jews, who became involved in such endeavors.

Update: 4/29/14:  There is a J1c3 which seems to be the oldest found.  It used to be called J1e,   In the website-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Victar/Haplogroup_J1c3_(

Y-DNA), they said that 30% of Yemenite Jews have the

 haplogroup of J1c3 or P58, as it is also called. As I see it, J1c3

 was the original or oldest, going back 9,000 to 10,000

 years J1c3d is a subgroup of it.  The J1 SNP of L859 tells if you are an Arab Hashemite.

Resource:

The New Standard Jewish Encyclopedia

https://jewishfactsfromportland.blogspot.com/2018/11/our-male-haplogroups-and-when-they-were.html

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_J_(Y-DNA

 https://jewishfactsfromportland.blogspot.com/2010/01/what-haplogroup-we-be.html   *****

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