Monday, November 7, 2022

Netanyahu and Trump: So Different But With Similarities

 Nadene Goldfoot                                    

Benyamin Netanyhu will forever be remembered for warning the UN about Iran's capability to make nuclear weapons very soon that will be used against Israel and possibly even the USA.  It was a most daring feat that anyone could have done.  He risked his reputation by getting up-in front of a very sparse audience that remained sitting since so many had walked out--to present his case against Iran.  The American Democrats walked out--and didn't even listen.  That certainly changed my political persuasion.  He was given no respect. He was right about what was going on behind the scenes.  Benyamin is most serious about  defending Israel.  That's his #1 motivation in life.  
 Ziva David, daughter of head of Mossad in TV series of NCIS, but a great representative of those who defend Israel in Mossad.  I used to watch just to see her in action, and I'm a female!  

I don't doubt Israel's spies of Mossad.  By doing so, he may have actually caused a postponement in Iran's production.    

I was watching youtube's presentation of French news where a panel was discussing Netanyahu's win as Prime Minister and what would happen if Trump won in 2 more years.  They were making a comparison of the 2 men and talking as if they were 2 peas in a pod.  There was a panel spokesman from Israel, a woman as well.  I wouldn't be surprised if she had been for Lapid, seemed to be on the Left.  Of course, they were all bemoaning about the 2 State Solution losing ground with Netanyahu.

I bristle at the thought of anyone putting Netanyahu into Trump's camp.  The 2 men are nowhere alike, even though Trump has been a president of the USA for 4 years and Netanyahu has been Prime Minister of Israel for 15 years.  It's like comparing Ivan the Great with George Washington, both leaders and from 2 distinctly different countries.  

Netanyahu Benjamin "Bibi" Netanyahu  Hebrewבִּנְיָמִין נְתַנְיָהוּ  born 21 October 1949) is an Israeli politician who served as the ninth prime minister of Israel from 1996 to 1999 and again from 2009 to 2021. He just won in the election as prime minister following the 2022 Israeli legislative election at age 73

He is currently serving as Leader of the Opposition and Chairman of Likud – National Liberal Movement. Netanyahu is the longest-serving prime minister in the country's history, having served for 15 years. He was also the first prime minister to be born in Israel after its Declaration of Independence.                

Giving his life to the IDF (Israel Defense Force) at 17 or 18 like all Israeli boys. Usually they serve 3 years, then go to college.  Girls served for 2 yearswhen I lived there in 1980-85.  

Born in Tel Aviv to secular Jewish parents, Netanyahu was raised both in Jerusalem, and for a time in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, in the United States. He returned to Israel in 1967 to join the Israel Defense Forces.   

Netanyahu was born in Tel Aviv, to Prof. Benzion Netanyahu (original name Mileikowsky) and Tzila (Cela; née Segal). His mother was born in 1912 in Petah Tikva, then in Ottoman Palestine, now Israel. Though all his grandparents were born in the Russian Empire (now Belarus, Lithuania and Poland), his mother's parents emigrated to Minneapolis in the United States. He is related to Rabbi Eliyahu of Vilna (the Vilna Gaon) on his paternal side.

Netanyahu's father, Benzion, was a professor of Jewish history at Cornell University, editor of the Encyclopaedia Hebraica, and a senior aide to Ze'ev Jabotinsky, who remained active in research and writing into his nineties. 

Benyamin Netanyahu's paternal grandfather was Nathan Mileikowsky, a leading Zionist rabbi and JNF fundraiser. Netanyahu's older brother, Yonatan, was killed in Uganda during Operation Entebbe in 1976. His younger brother, Iddo, is a radiologist and writer. All three brothers served in the Sayeret Matkal reconnaissance unit of the Israel Defense Forces.

Benyamin Netanyahu was the best speaker for Israel that she has ever had.  I was highly impressed when he spoke with Obama about Israel, who wanted Israel to go back to pre 1967 lines. Benyamin's vocabulary was better than most native born Americans, and his debating skills were outstanding. Trump couldn't begin to hold a candle against him. Even Obama was muffled.  Here, Donald and Benyamin are first meeting.  It looks like an arm wrestle move.   

As for educationNetanyahu returned to the United States in late 1972 to study architecture at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT). After briefly returning to Israel to fight in the Yom Kippur War, he returned to the United States and under the name Ben Nitay, completed a bachelor's degree in architecture in February 1975 and earned a master's degree from the MIT Sloan School of Management in June 1976.                                    

   Jonatan Netanyahu, leader and only fatality in Operation.  

Concurrently, Benyamin was studying towards a doctorate in political science, until his studies were broken off by the death of his brother in Operation Entebbe.

So Ben almost had a doctorate and Donald had a BS.  

As a Jew, especially with a rabbi for a grandfather and college professor for a father, Netanyahu was raised on the Golden Rule; Don't treat others in a way that you wouldn't want to be treated.                     

Jews are brought up on The Golden Rule.  After enjoying firing so many people on TV and in real life as president, I don't know about Trump.  Had he ever heard of the Golden Rule?  He turns against people very fast.  I think there's a medical name for liking people a lot at first and then turning against them.  I think Marilyn Monroe had this malady of a personality disorder called Borderline Personality Disorder. I'm only a retired teacher, no psychologist, but maybe?   

                      Donald and Joe Biden in a "debate"

 Donald John Trump (born June 14, 1946) in the borough of Queens in New York City is an American politician, media personality, and businessman who served as the 45th president of the United States from 2017 to 2021. He's now 76, 3 years older than Netanyahu, but that is pretty close, putting them in the same era.  

He was the fourth child of Fred Trump, a wealthy Bronx-born real estate developer whose parents were German immigrants, and Mary Anne MacLeod Trump, an immigrant from Scotland. Trump grew up with older siblings MaryanneFred Jr., and Elizabeth, and younger brother Robert in the Jamaica Estates neighborhood of Queens.  Maryanne is a psychologist and has written about Donald.  

Trump went to Sunday school and was confirmed in 1959 at the First Presbyterian Church in Jamaica, Queens. In the 1970s, his parents joined the Marble Collegiate Church in Manhattan, which belongs to the Reformed Church in America. The pastor at Marble, Norman Vincent Peale, ministered to the family until his death in 1993. Trump has described him as a mentor. In 2015, the church stated that Trump was not an active member. In 2019, he appointed his personal pastor, televangelist Paula White, to the White House Office of Public LiaisonIn 2020, he said he identified as a non-denominational Christian.


 At age 13, he was enrolled at the New York Military Academy, a private boarding school, and in 1964, he enrolled at Fordham University. Two years later, he transferred to the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania, graduating in May 1968 with a B.S. in economics.

 In 2015, Trump's lawyer Michael Cohen threatened Trump's colleges, high school, and the College Board with legal action if they released Trump's academic records. I can only think of one reason why.  They had to have been bad.

While in college, Trump obtained four student draft deferments during the Vietnam War era. (At this time, no mother wanted her son in the army).   In 1966, he was deemed fit for military service based upon a medical examination, and in July 1968, a local draft board classified him as eligible to serve. In October 1968, he was classified 1-Y, a conditional medical deferment, and in 1972, he was reclassified 4-F due to bone spurs, permanently disqualifying him from service.  

  Trump on January 6th speaking to crowd at end of his 4 years

Trump graduated from the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania with a bachelor's degree in 1968. He became president of his father's real estate business in 1971 and renamed it The Trump Organization. He expanded the company's operations to building and renovating skyscrapers, hotels, casinos, and golf courses. He later started side ventures, mostly by licensing his name. 

From 2004 to 2015, he co-produced and hosted the reality television series The Apprentice. It was a  big hit because he would fire everyone.  I couldn't stand watching the disappointment on their faces so I couldn't watch the program.  Trump and his businesses have been involved in more than 4,000 state and federal legal actions, including six bankruptcies.

So while Ben was the son of a college professor with family from Jews of Russian Empire, Donald was the son of a real-estate businessman with family from Germany.  Donald avoided any draft or army service and Ben had been in it since he was about 18 years old along with college in the states.

Lately Trump has accuse Netanyahu of being disloyal and is angry with him because he phoned Biden with congratulations when he won, an act mature diplomats do.  Trump is also very disappointed that many American Jews did not vote for him. I feel in his heart he was good to Israel only to win Jewish votes. Only zeroing in on getting votes is his downfall.     

Netanyahu made his closeness to Donald Trump, a personal friend since the 1980s, central to his political appeal in Israel from 2016.  Benyamin would have been gracious to Trump as he was a rich American and his backing couldn't hurt.  Benyamin would be gracious to any person, as he followed the Golden Rule--remember?  As a politician, he would not be rude to anyone, that's for sure, and his 15 years as PM certainly taught him that much as well. 

      Trump and Jerad at peace talks

 Trump, with Jerad Kushner, his son-in-law's urging, no doubt, got Trump to do 3 fantastic things for Israel that Netanyahu cannot forget:  Obama did not do these, nor Biden:  Trump/Kushner gets the credit.  Jews have waited for 2,000 years for this to happen...

1. During Trump's presidency, the United States recognized Jerusalem as the capital of Israel

2. recognized Israeli sovereignty over the Golan Heights

3. brokered the Abraham Accords, a series of normalization agreements between Israel and various Arab states

Since December 2016, Netanyahu has been under investigation for corruption by Israeli police and prosecutors. On 21 November 2019, he was indicted on charges of breach of trust, bribery and fraud. Due to the indictment, Netanyahu was legally required to relinquish all of his ministry posts other than the prime minister position prior to his ousting.

Donald was also almost impeached as President.  Donald Trump, the 45th president of the United States, was impeached for the first time by the House of Representatives of the 116th United States Congress on December 18, 2019. The House adopted two articles of impeachment against Trump: abuse of power and obstruction of Congress. The Senate acquitted Trump of these charges on February 5, 2020.

Now Donald is being discussed for his January 6th escapade of causing people to attack our Capital and not stopping them.  "“As demonstrated in our hearings, we have assembled overwhelming evidence, including from dozens of your former appointees and staff, that you personally orchestrated and oversaw a multipart effort to overturn the 2020 presidential election and to obstruct the peaceful transition of power,” Representative Bennie Thompson, Democrat of Mississippi, and Representative Liz Cheney, Republican of Wyoming, the leaders of the committee, wrote to Mr. Trump Friday."


If you give a person enough rope, they usually will hang themselves.  Proverb. If one gives someone enough freedom of action, they may destroy themselves by foolish actions, or to put your foot in your mouth... In my opinion, that's what Trump has done with his January 6th action of not being gracious in losing the election.  The events on this date are all on tape and therefore, TV.  Trumpers evidently refuse to watch or accept his actions.  Nobody is free of such mistakes.  Success can go to one's head and cause such poor thinking.  
Each man has lost a favorite brother; Donald's brother to alcoholism and Benyamin's to IDF service during the Entebe Operation.  
When the Palestinians can behave like US's Canadian neighbors, the the US can speak about a Palestinian state.  One thing is keeping it from happening;  their rockets, missiles and mortars shot into Israel daily.  Does the world think Jews are stupid?  Look at what happened with Gaza!  That's the lesson of all lessons.  

As for the 2-State Solution, the problem goes back to the beginning where the land was in the League of Nations' hands and they didn't know or care a thing about its history.  In carving up the land, they gave away Judea and Samaria to Jordan-Muslims.  It was the original home for thousands of years of the Jews, and that's what they expected to get back.  The Jews wound up with 10% of the original deal because of the Saudi Prince Abdullah's desire for land.  


Judea was our last stand, the last of the 12 tribes of Jacob and where they lived.  Samaria was the land around Israel's new capital of Samaria when they broke off from the original land of Israel after Solomon died.  

     Knesset situated in Jerusalem

 They were so happy to get something, as pogroms were going on daily and they needed hope for a home that they accepted.  It didn't take long for the Jordanians to destroy Jewish graves and use the headstones for paving materials, etc.  Our Jewish committee were active wonderful men, Zionists all the way, but not very religious.  They didn't realize what was happening, evidently.  Today, our people have changed their outer garments and know the history of every inch of land.  Their minds have gained an old perspective of their roots and why they are where they are.  .

Resource:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Netanyahu

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ziva_David

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump

https://www.lehighcenter.com/celebrities/5-iconic-women-you-didnt-know-struggled-with-mental-health/#:~:text=Today%2C%20many%20modern%20psychologists%20believe,by%20childhood%20feelings%20of%20abandonment.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_impeachment_of_Donald_Trump#:~:text=On%20February%205%2C%20Trump%20was,for%20conviction%2C%2053%20for%20acquittal.

3 comments:

  1. Americans—especially American Jews—have expressed dismay at the results of last week’s Israeli elections. They seem to believe that Israel has been transformed suddenly from a thriving democracy into a “semi-fascist” state (to borrow a Joe Biden coinage). New York Times columnist Thomas Friedman, clutching his pearls, shrieked that “the Israel we knew is gone.” Yet Americans distraught at the results of last week’s Israeli elections are at a profound disadvantage: They don’t live in the Jewish state.Many Americans can’t understand why Israelis voted for the parties they did . . . or hysterically misinterpret the implications for Israel’s democracy. If Americans actually shared the Israeli experience every day, they might have sympathy for why Israeli voters—in a record turnout— overwhelming elected Benjamin Netanyahu’s rightist Likud party and several further-right parties that are predicted to govern with him.
    While I did not vote for any of the parties in the presumed winning coalition, I understand—and sympathize with—why so many did. Nor am I in the least worried about Israel's political health. Let’s start with five recent stories in Israeli media: ✔ Two Palestinian terrorists armed with a knife and an axe attacked seven religious Jews in Elad, Israel—three men, fathers all, died in the bloody attack. (Police captured the killers, with their axe, a week later.) ✔ At a light-rail station in Jerusalem, a Palestinian terrorist stabbed a 20-year-old man—the attacker was killed. ✔ A Palestinian driver intentionally runs over the five Israeli soldiers waiting at a bus stop—a bystander fatally shoots terrorist. ✔ September sees a record of more than 200 terrorist attacks against Jewish residents of Judea and Samaria (aka, “the West Bank”). ✔ A Hamas official vows that the Palestinians will “return” the entire land of Israel to its “original” owners. It’s no wonder that voting Israelis in general are in the mood for more law and order. It will be no surprise if Tuesday’s American election shows the same dramatic shift toward fighting crime. But Americans should appreciate another background factor in the Israeli elections. Unlike in the United States, where the Left and the Right battle each other bitterly in a 50-50 tug-of-war—in which the power equation flips every 2-4 years—in Israel, the right has come to dominate the playing field. These days, some 60% of Israeli voters usually cast their ballots for right-leaning parties. That is to say, most Israelis embrace right-wing values—more Zionism, more Judaism, more security. Why have Israeli Jews come to take a harder line on Palestinian violence than American Jews?

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  2. Continued from Flame: Because those Palestinian attacks are just two or ten or 20 miles from their front doors. Why do the majority of Israeli Jews scoff at the illusive two-state solution, while their American counterparts continue to nurture the idea? Because Israelis see and hear every day the consistent, decades-long refusal of Palestinians to make peace . . . or even speak of peace. They feel the terror daily. It makes them afraid. It makes them determined to fight back. If you don’t live here and read those headlines, you’re not going to feel that. If you didn’t serve in the Israeli army and fight terrorists, if you don’t get goosebumps when you hear “HaTikva”—the Israeli national anthem—you’re not likely to feel that. Finally, why do most Israelis accept without question the right of Jews to create communities in Judea and Samaria? Because most all Israelis have friends and colleagues who live in those territories—not in squalid “settlements,” but in beautiful, peaceful cities and towns in the Biblical Jewish homeland. Because they know that Jews are the majority population in a huge part of these territories. Because they know these territories are where Jews have lived for thousands of years—and that as a fact they have never belonged to the Palestinians. But what of Israel’s democracy? Why has Israel had five elections in the last four years? Why does it have such a big problem electing a stable, right-wing government?
    The reason Israeli governments have been so shaky and tentative—even seating a blended left-center-right-Arab coalition after the last election—is because many on the Israeli right so disdain Netanyahu politically that they will never support him. They may share his values, but they distrust the man. The question now is whether Israel will experience and survive the political implosion predicted by leftist American politicians and media—as well as a good number of leftist Israelis. To answer, first consider this fact: Israel is ranked the 23rd most successful democracy on earth—scoring higher even than the United States. Its electoral process is secure and inclusive; its government functions reliably; its political culture is vibrant; it aggressively protects civil liberties; and it has a high degree of citizen participation—which in last week’s election was over 71%, much higher than that of the normal U.S. turnout. Give this robust strength—measurably superior to that of the U.S.—it’s a real show of chutzpah for American leftists to be doomsaying Israel’s democracy. One is tempted to believe that this prediction is more based on political distaste for Israeli rightist values than hard analysis.
    What’s more, the ultra-right Religious Zionist party—now Israel’s third largest—whose hard-line positions on immigration, terrorism, and judicial reform so offend the leftists, has no planks in its platform that oppose the structure of Israel’s democracy.



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  3. ending the Flame article: What’s more, much criticism against Religious Zionists attributes to them positions not in their platform, but which critics claim are hidden by “spin” and “ambiguity.”

    Remember, too, that many American leftists who condemn the Israeli elections also frivolously warn that a Republican win in the midterms will spell the demise of American democracy and the rise of Mr. Biden’s “semi-facists.” Please point out to friends, family, colleagues—and in letters to the editor—that just as the American Congress accommodates radical legislators like Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, Rashida Tlaib and Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez, who advocate extreme socialist schemes and anti-Zionist measures, so should Israel be allowed its fringe elements. Emphasize, too, your confidence in both the American and Israeli systems to temper—and even quash when necessary—measures and people who seek to overturn the protections firmly embedded in our democratic systems.
    I hope you'll also take a minute, while you have this material front and center, to forward this message to friends, visit FLAME's lively Facebook page and review the P.S. immediately below. It describes FLAME's new hasbarah campaign—"Democracy Thrives in Israel”—which exposes false claims that Israel deprives Arab Israeli citizens and Palestinian Arabs of their rights.

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