Friday, August 4, 2023

Possible Zoroastrianism Entering Chaldean Ur, Abraham's Tribe, Egypt and Celts of Ireland in Separate Ways

 Nadene Goldfoot                                        

         Israelites, held in Egypt for 400 years, practiced Baal worship-the Egyptian G-d.  Then when Moses went up the mountain and didn't come back immediately, the Israelites had made the Golden Calf.  Evidently their view of G-d at that time was in the shape of a bull.    The Tanakh denounces human sacrifice as barbaric customs of Baal worshippers (e.g. Psalms 106:37). James Kugel argues that the Torah's specifically forbidding child sacrifice indicates that it happened in Israel as well.  Remember,  Abraham about to sacrifice Isaac, his son, but was stopped just in time by the angel.                                     

A bronze bull covered in gold leaf--archaeology find 

The Egyptian god Apis was a highly revered ancient god of fertility, death, and the underworld. The name Apis, however, is Greek; he was called Hap, Hep, or Hapi in Egypt. Apis was typically depicted as a large, black, horned bull with white body markings and a menat collar, which was the sacred necklace of the goddess Hathor. He also wore a radiate sun crown bearing the uraeus, a serpent representative of powerful kings.

        Important gods of Egypt, the bull and the Hippopotamus 

I just ran across an old religion an internet researcher was introduced to;  a mixture of a sun god and a bull and the Celts of Ireland.  Somebody had left evidence in stones in Minnesota when this researcher was looking for giants,, perhaps Scandinavian giants from 8 to 10 feet tall so skeletons were thought to have been found on farms there.  Quite catching.  They mentioned the bull of Egypt and I was fascinated.  The Caves of Anubis was the subject, found in Oklahoma, I believe.  

The men of Egypt seem to be 8.4% to 5.94% R1b DNA , a very common haplogroup for the men of Europe.    I use that fact to see if Celts of Ireland were also carrying DNA from Egypt.  

The DNA of the Celts of Ireland happens to be slightly different :  R-L21 or R1b1a2a1a2c, also known as R-M529 or R-S145, which is a Human Y-chromosome DNA haplogroup. S552 and subclade(s) is often linked to the Celtic peoples, and their migrations into Western Europe, during the Bronze and Iron Ages. Interestingly, the Frank Hugh Robinson family in Oregon discovered Irish roots after finding Frank had the L21 haplogroup-a definition of the male line.  Now it is defined as R-FT111213. I imagine that not many Celts in Ireland did the initiation into the Mithra religion anyway, not saying that those with this DNA were Mithrans, either. 

Mithraism, the worship of Mithra, the Iranian god of the sun, justice, contract, and war in pre-Zoroastrian Iran. Known as Mithras in the Roman Empire during the 2nd and 3rd centuries ce, this deity was honoured as the patron of loyalty to the emperor.

First, they thought the sketches in the rock of the bull with long horns were of Mithra of Egypt.  It turns out that there was a religion of Mithra, but in Iran, not Egypt.  The whole report is to say that the Celts were in North America  before anyone else and they left these mementos.  Here's a comment from the researcher whose program this is from who was in a cave in Oklahoma, reported to also hold similar items:  I’ll run across a museum that will help me understand these particular petroglyphs better.  It’s still crazy to think that Celtic, Anasazi (Native American) and Egyptian like petroglyphs are all within a 10 mile radius of each other, if  not in the same cave! "

Notice the horns on this bull of Egypt.  That design is Egyptian. The Apis bull is a rare example of the Egyptians worshiping a living animal as a god. The Apis was a special bull believed to be a god by the ancient Egyptians. He was worshiped during his life and then mummified when he died. 

The  program's star, the researcher, was told that the bull would be placed over a grate under which a man stood who wanted to become an initiate of the cult.  The bull's blood would rain down on him and he would become part of the group.  What seemed to be a shower was a shower of bull blood.  How horrible!  

Apis was the most popular of three great bull cults of ancient Egypt, the others being the cults of Mnevis and Buchis. All are related to the worship of Hathor or Bat, similar primary goddesses separated by region until unification that eventually merged as Hathor.  The cult of the Apis was central to Egyptian religion and dates from Egypt’s earliest settlement. Because of its strength and virility, the bull was associated with the pharaoh and his divinity. 

Looking at the map, it's possible that somehow, Egyptians of cult of Apis paddled to Ireland via the Mediterranean Sea by getting through the Strait of Gibaltor and going north.  The sketch in the rock in Oklahoma and the one in Minnesota could have been made before Columbus's voyage in 1492.  Both were etched, not painted.  

The cult of the Apis, associated with PTAH, the creator god of Memphis, was very popular during the reign of the Ptolemies, Greeks who ruled Egypt from the city of Alexandria (332–32 B.C).

Now, the religion of Mithra was another thing.  The Romans attributed their Mithraic mysteries to Zoroastrian Persian sources relating to Mithra. Since the early 1970s, the dominant scholarship has noted dissimilarities between the Persian and Roman traditions, making it, at most, the result of Roman perceptions of Zoroastrian ideas.  

Zoroastrianism is a religion founded by Zoroaster (7th century BCE) or earlier, the prophet of ancient Iran.Zoroaster (also known as Zarathushtra) was a priest who sought to reform aspects of the pre-Islamic pantheistic religion practiced in his community. Some of the practices he disapproved of included the sacrifice of animals (particularly bulls), as well as the ritualized consumption of the intoxicating beverage haoma. At the age of 30, Zoroaster experienced a vision in which the supremacy of the god of wisdom, Ahura Mazda, was revealed to him. The rest of the pantheon of deities was reduced to the status of demons and lesser spiritual creatures, with Angra Mainyu, or Ahriman, posited as the incarnation of evil standing in contrast to the goodness and light of Ahura Mazda. This dualism is often regarded as having been influential in the formulation of Jewish theology, and through Judaism, that of Christianity.

  Both the belief in light and righteousness and its actively ethical character like the commendation of marriage and agriculture, turning the earth from a waste into G-d's kingdom, bear some resemblance to Judaism, which, however, unqualifiedly rejected its dualism.  Isaiah in 45:7 said, "I form the light and create darkness;  I make peace and create evil:  I am the Lord, that doeth all these things."  

 It seems to be a blend of ideas. " In Zoroastrian scripture, Mithra is distinct from the divinity of the Sun, Hvare-khshaeta (literally "Radiant Sun", from which the Middle Persian word Khorshed for the Sun). However, in Zoroastrian tradition, Mithra evolved from being an all-seeing figure (hence vaguely associated with the Sun) into a divinity co-identified with the Sun itself, effectively taking over Hvare-khshaeta's role. It is uncertain how and when and why this occurred, but it is commonly attributed to conflation with the Babylonian sun god Shamash and/or the Greek deity Apollo, with whom Mithra shares multiple characteristics such as a judicial function and association with the Sun."

In previous articles, I found that Abraham's Chaldean tribe originally was in Iran, and they migrated west to Ur of the Chaldees.  It could be that at the time the religion they practiced was Zoroastrianism.  The timing is right to have an effect on Terah and Abram.   

                                          Illustration of a pre-Christian trial.

Despite the independence of development from the Romans, Ireland remained illiterate until converting to Christianity. (Image: Marzolino/Shutterstock)

Mithraism kept alive through some Romans, and through Rome, soldiers could have passed it onto the Celts of Ireland, where is became more of the subject of folk tales.  The Celts, or Celtic peoples,  were a collection of Indo-European peoples  from Europe and Anatolia, identified by their use of Celtic languages and other cultural similarities.  Celts in pre-Christian Ireland were pagans and had gods and goddesses, but they converted to Christianity in the fourth century.  The Celts are believed to come from Central Europe and the European Atlantic seaboard, including Spain, and Spain is on the Mediterranean Sea. 

Update thought at 11:30am: these items in the cave were things stolen by pirates meant to go to a museum and they hid them in this cave, unable to return...here to this day...  

Resource:

https://meriword.wordpress.com/2015/03/23/the-caves-of-anubis/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apis_(deity)#:~:text=Apis%20was%20the%20most%20popular,that%20eventually%20merged%20as%20Hathor.

https://www.youregypttours.com/egypt-tours-blog/What-Is-Apis-Bull#:~:text=The%20cult%20of%20the%20Apis,the%20pharaoh%20and%20his%20divinity.

https://depts.washington.edu/silkroad/exhibit/religion/zoroastrianism/essay.html#:~:text=Zoroastrianism%2C%20the%20dominant%20pre%2DIslamic,BCE%20(if%20not%20earlier).

https://www.wondriumdaily.com/pre-christian-ireland-the-scholarly-views/#:~:text=Celts%20in%20pre%2DChristian%20Ireland,European%20Atlantic%20seaboard%2C%20including%20Spain.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_history_of_Egypt

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_R-L21#:~:text=R%2DL21%20or%20R1b1a2a1a2c%2C%20also,the%20Bronze%20and%20Iron%20Ages.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_sacrifice#:~:text=The%20Tanakh%20denounces%20human%20sacrifice,happened%20in%20Israel%20as%20well.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Mithraism


1 comment:

  1. More on the caves of Anubis: https://www.historicmysteries.com/anubis-caves/

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