Where is the Logic With a Two-State Solution? A Solution for Who?

Nadene Goldfoot                                          

The tragedy is that after waiting and praying for 2,000 years, something positive happened.  We had meetings with European heads from 1914 onward about regaining our land back  to create a Jewish Homeland.
                                                                               

Our leaders jumped through all the hoops of doing everything expected;  meeting with the right people, filling out the right forms, presenting our case, doing what could be done to put the right foot forward, and finally, finally Lord Balfour was reached!  he wrote the letter that was the clincher, we were to have our Jewish Homeland on our previous land of Palestine.
                                                                           

By 1917, the War had ended and the British were given the mandate over Palestine and the French were given the mandate over Syria.  The British mandate was for 30 years, meaning that the Jews would not be able to have their state for 30 years after the British left, which wouldn't be until May 14, 1948.
By 1920 (from Sept-Dec), the number of persons registered as immigrants in Palestine were:
 5,514 Jews and 202 Christians and Moslems with a total of 5,716.
                                                                                 

The promise was broken by 1922 when the British gave 80% of the Jewish Homeland to Prince Abdullah of Saudi Arabia, an Arab who helped to win the WWII War against the Ottoman Empire with his horse brigade.  The Prince wanted to be a king and needed land in order to do so.  In 1922, 7,844 Jews had immigrated to Palestine and 284 Christians and Moslems with a total of 8,128.
                                                                             

                                                                           

Jews in Odessa after Pogrom

The let-down for the Jews must have been horrific, since they had worked for  8 years to reach the point of having their own state in a time of great need.  Pogroms, attacks and slaughter of Jews  showing much anti-Semitism had reached a boiling point in the world.
                                                                                 

In 1939, 16,405 Jews immigrated to Palestine and 376 Christians and 1,652 Moslems with a total:18,433.

The idea came to mind of the League of Nations to offer to divide what land was left for the Jews among the rest of the Arabs not a part of the Hashemites of Abdullah.  They made them the offer, but the Arabs refused.  They wanted the whole remaining piece that was left for the Jews.  Jerusalem was going to be divided, thought the League of Nations, but that too, didn't work out.
                                                                       

Ever since then, the Arabs have banded together with all their neighbors of the Middle East and have attacked Israel, who have managed to win each one.  In Khartoum, Libya in 1967 after Israel won, the Arabs decided on 3 no's to Israel and the world.
1. No peace with Israel.
2.  No negotiations with Israel
3. No recognition of Israel.
                                                                                     

The only thing they'd settle for was: The insistence on the rights of the "Palestinian people in their own country.

Interesting they should say that, because they never had "their own country.  There was no country of Palestine.  They were Palestinian Syrian Arabs, and that was it.  They were Bedouins, roamers who raided campsites for what could be found and taken.  A few tried farming but gave up and sold their land, to the Jews who were returning in 1870 and in the 1880's and to Jews whose families had been there since the days of King David and had never left.    Most entered Palestine seeking work from the Jews.  This has all been documented by journalist Joan Peters in her book, From Time Immemorial.  She did a terrific job finding original papers with the information, putting most PhD's to shame with her documentation.  Her work reached the ears of several presidents who responded positively to her work.  

                                                                           

Notice the 9 mile width of land for Israel!
Going back to these lines is Saudi Arabia's idea of a peace plan,
yes, giving a lot of pieces to the Arabs.  I didn't notice Saudi Arabia
giving any land to Abdullah!  They're very generous with other people's land.    

Ever since then, the main Arab effort has been directed towards bringing about the withdrawal of Israel to the pre-1967 lines by every means other than negotiations with Israel.
                                                                               
The means they have always chosen since 1967 have not brought them any closer to their objective of forcing upon Israel a decision which is not acceptable to it.  Israel has insisted that the conflict should be solved directly between the 2 sides and that an imposed settlement is no solution to it.
                                                                                 

The Palestine Cabinet, mixed Fatah and Hamas on a good day
many are former terrorists

Thinking inside the box always comes around to the idea of a 2-state solution, and every time the Palestinians wrangle out of it by their refusals to come to a peace table, or just saying no.  They have even gone as far as forming a cabinet, and always, Mahmoud Abbas, now 81 years old, the replacement of Yasser Arafat, is the head man.
                                                                         

Queen Rania of Jordan

So we have a situation.  Many of these Arabs are now a part of Abdullah's Hashemite group and live in Jordan, land that was to be the Jewish Homeland according to the League of Nations originally.  It is already a state with Palestinians.  In fact, the Queen is the daughter of a Palestinian.  That's #1 Palestine already.
                                                                           

Abbas speaking at UN against Israel as usual

We have the Arabs living in 2 locations, not connected.  The Fatah group led by Abbas live in Judea-Samaria, (The West Bank).  The stronger terrorist group, Hamas, live in Gaza.  The 2 leaders, Abbas and Meshaal, do not agree on anything for more than 30 minutes and are in a state of dispute over who is the leader of the 2.   How can this be a Palestine #2 when it looks like and acts like a #2 and a #3?
                                                                             

Khaled Meshaal, Hamas leader
They attacked Ashkelon Monday morning with a rocket . Israel retaliated. 

 We have Arabs who are not interested in having their own state and we have Jews who are getting tired of hearing that a 2 state solution is the only solution in this world for these 2 people.  Would you want to have people who have tried to kill you for the past 70 years right next door to you ?  This already happened with Gaza.  By leaving it for the Arabs, a terrorist group, Hamas took it over and kicked out old Abbas.  (I say that kindly because I am 82.)   Who in their right mind would turn over the keys to people bent on killing and slaughtering you and have them live right next door to you?  This has been seen already in southern Israel with Gaza.  It's been seen happening to Jews in Judea-Samaria.   People live in bomb shelters in order to exist in Southern Israel .                                                                        

Hamas terrorist

I have a feeling that after 70 years, the Arabs are not ever going to live in peace next door as they do not live in peace in Gaza.  From 1947 to 2017, all Arabs have practiced are attacks on Israelis.

They have no reason to want their own state.  They have 48 states they can live in that are Muslim majority states of which 22 are in the surrounding area.  They came  from all these 22 states, and maybe even farther.
                                                                                   
Jews, after receiving the  papers, had to wait 30 years before claiming their state and their reward for doing it right was to receive only 20%.  Where is the the  waiting period for the Arabs?  If they really want a state bad enough, they should show they have earned it by good behavior for the next 30 years.  They need time to recondition their people from the hatred they have fed them with to being good neighbors.    Actually, I think waiting for 70 years has been long enough.  The open window is shut.

This is why Netanyahu should use his land that Israel won back in 1967.  It's Israel's land, not land to give away to murderers and terrorists.  Israel waited from 1948 to 1967 in not using land that should have been theirs, but they were following the rules.  19 years of being kept off their own land and their own special holy places was enough already.

Israel's not going back to the pre-1967 lines.  Netanyahu explained already to Obama why.  I hope someone helps Trump with his homework before he  comes along and suggests this old saw once again.
                                                                         

Possible homes to build-Amma building in India
Amma means mother in many languages.  Eema is mother in Hebrew.  

Me in 1980 in Safed; my apartment on David Eleazar Street
Don't go thinking Israel will be building any $600,000 homes per family.
It most likely means apartments for people and they are very small.  

To me, Netanyahu is doing the only thing left to do, and that is building on the land. As long as the Arabs refuse to sit down and make peaceful plans with Israel, they are wasting Israel's time and therefore will be losing land that could have been theirs to use  long ago.  They're not losing anything, really, because they never had land to lose!  It was never theirs!

A 2-State Solution?  The Arabs will be lucky to be allowed to stay in their cities in Judea and Samaria.  As far as that goes, Judea and Samaria are already divided into areas A-for Arabs, B-for both Arabs and Jews, and C-for Israeli Jews.  This goes back to the Oslo Accords.

To me, this is logic.  Bad behavior should not get rewarded.  The way this world has been working lately, it does get rewarded.  The world is now against the Jews who have been struggling to survive these past 70 years against constant warfare against them, and for that, they are called "Occupiers, viruses, and other such "pleasantries. "  Anti-Semitism has risen to great heights again.   The 2-State solution only comes to one solution:   Guess it's time for better heads:  Solomon?  the Messiah?  Trump 's thought is for the 2 state solution.   Same old, same old.  That only works if both parties want peace.

Update:  The population of Israel is 6,000,000,000 Jews and a total of 8,192,463 with the rest being Muslims and a few Christians.
              Palestinians count as their population 4,797,239 with an increase of 2,8% from last year.
This makes the idea of incorporating land that Palestinians expect to have for their state very difficult being a hefty Jewish majority must always be the main population.
Update: 2/13/17; 7:27am  Another group agreees with me: Watch this video: with youtube: https://unitedwithisrael.org/watch-what-is-the-two-state-solution/?utm_source=pushengage&utm_medium=push_notification&utm_campaign=pushengage

Resource:  http://www.mythsandfacts.org/conflict/mandate_for_palestine/mandate_for_palestine.htm
Facts about Israel p. 48.
http://amma.org/global-charities/building-homes