Nadene Goldfoot
1. They have thought that by distancing themselves from Israel, it would gain favor from the Arabs. 5 administrations have done this; Eisenhower, Nixon, Carter, George H.W. Bush and Obama. This has never brought favor of USA to Arabs. It has backfired and has produced more Arab demands.
2. They have thought that if they cooperate with Israel, they would lose any Arab favor. This has turned out to be false, for the Arabs never thought that their relationship with the USA was affected by the USA relationship with Israel.
3. They thought they had to solve the Palestinian issue first before the USA could transform the region or America's position in the region. It has been proven that if the Palestinian issue were to be solved tomorrow, all the other issues in the region would still be there.
These assumptions come from Dennis Ross who had to deal with issues in the Middle East under Presidents George H.W. Bush (1989-1993), Bill Clinton (1993-2001) and Barack Hussein Obama (2009-2016). Dennis spoke at the Jewish People Policy Institute March 16th in Jerusalem and spoke about this.
"Ross is an American diplomat and author. He has served as the Director of Policy Planning in the State Department under President George H. W. Bush, the special Middle East coordinator under President Bill Clinton, and was a special adviser for the Persian Gulf and Southwest Asia (which includes Iran) to the former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton"
One of the biggest anti-Israel presidents has been Carter. "In their 2006 paper The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy, John Mearsheimer, political science professor at the University of Chicago, and Stephen Walt, academic dean of the Kennedy School of Government at Harvard University, named Ross as a member of the "Israeli lobby" in the United States. Ross in turn criticized the academics behind the paper. "The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy is a book by John Mearsheimer, Professor of Political Science at the University of Chicago, and Stephen Walt, Professor of International Relations at the Kennedy that was published in 2007."
In 2008, Time reported that a former colleague of Ross, former ambassador, Daniel Kurtzer, published a think-tank monograph containing anonymous complaints from Arab and American negotiators saying Ross was seen as biased towards Israel and not "an honest broker." According to this, if you see that Israel is in the right, you are biased and this is bad. You should only see that the Arabs are right. You are expected to take a side but not Israel's.
Ross is Jewish but hadn't been raised in much of a Jewish environment being his Jewish mother and Catholic husband raised him in an non-religious environment. He realized Israel's precarious position after the 1967 War. Finally we have had one American Jew who sees what has been happening, and his assumptions about the USA's positions proves to be correct after working with presidents for the past 27 years.
Mearsheimer and Walt 's book has been the most damning and incorrect book ever published about Israel and AIPAC. It is a travesty to history. Carter has also written damning books about Israel equally bad. He has interpreted his Christian ethics to be against Israel, probably following the replacement theory of some in that the Jews' place in this world has been replaced by them.
We have one Israel Lobby group, AIPAC, and I am a member, one of some of our 2% of Jews living in the USA with the other 98% of the population. A few AIPAC members take the time out of their busy schedules and their own money to go to Washington DC and go over bills affecting Israel with their senators. They are knowledgeable and know more about how things affect Israel than the senators who have to vote yeah or nay. These same senators are no doubt bombarded from people voicing the other side of the coin, and our AIPAC members hope that their information rings more true than the opposition; one big debate going on. At this same time, a new group, started or helped out by the billionaire, Soros, is working against AIPAC in blasting Israel while saying they are promoting Israel. Just reading what they are saying shows they are so extremely left in their ideas that they have left the Israel position long ago. " AIPAC works to build relationships with members of Congress from both sides of the aisle to promote the U.S.-Israel relationship."
AIPAC members will hear Joe Biden speak at their conference this year. They will hear the USA side of what has been happening. AIPAC's mission is to strengthen, protect and promote the U.S.-Israel relationship in ways that enhance the security of Israel and the United States. I wonder if he will give an update on Iran breaking the rules in firing missiles a few days ago. Even with AIPAC, the Iran deal was a done deal by John Kerry and ignored Netanyahu's pleas when he came and spoke personally to the Senators.
To prove how groups are receiving speakers from Arab groups, I've also belonged to an Israel advocate group that has put together facts with a slide program for presentation to groups. My job was to phone ministers of churches who might be interested in hearing Israel's side of the problems. I was treated with such distain and with a no, and then I found out they were only hearing the Arab side and welcomed their speakers into their churches instead. Mearsheimer and Walt have a lot to learn as to the bombardment in this country of only one side of the Israel-Palestine situation. They haven't studied their history at all. That's why their book provoked howls of outrage from me and others. The impact of the Israel lobby on U.S. foreign policy, which doesn't always happen, comes from learning facts that cannot be disputed and that lies from their opposition are uncovered.
Every president since Harry S. Truman has made incorrect assumptions about how not backing Israel would be beneficial as he did after voting for its existence which was May 14, 1948. Even he had other expectations about the Middle East back then and how this would further their efforts in making important inroads-financially beneficial, most likely to the USA. That would include Dwight David Eisenhower, John Fitzgerald Kennedy, Lyndon Baines Johnson, Richard Milhous Nixon, Gerald Rudolph Ford, James Earl Carter, Jr, Ronald Wilson Reagan and Bush, Clinton, Bush and Obama, as I mentioned.
Now that it is again time to vote for another president, will the tide turn and will these 3 assumptions ever change with a more enlightened president and staff? Will someone stand firm and view Israel with favor in their eyes so that their actions will reflect this?
False assumptions have been made about Jews
for a long time. Some people even thought that
we had horns, and this came from a famous statute of Moses by Michelangelo in Rome. Let's go for facts and not false assumptions from now on. The idea the artist had came from the horns of the Vulgate version of Exodus 34: which was mis-translated by Christians. (His face shone) was translated in horns. I don't know how people could fall for such an idiotic idea or why they didn't question it, but there were people who became peeping toms of Jews just to see those horns. Good grief! Though these 3 false assumptions are not so glaringly wrong as the horns we don't have, people should have questioned them before they became so ingrained in the society.
Resource: http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Politics-And-Diplomacy/Dennis-Ross-Next-US-administration-will-want-to-improve-ties-with-Israel-448356
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Ross
NuVenture Creations-USA-presidential chart, information
http://www.policyconference.org/article/confirmedSpeakers-AL.asp
http://www.allenbwest.com/2016/03/breaking-iran-fires-more-missiles-this-time-marked-with-chilling-message-for-obama-admin/
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/archive/index.php/t-300025.html
http://taylormarshall.com/2013/08/the-horns-of-moses-defending-michelangelos-horned-moses.html
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| Harry S. Truman, 33rd President of the USA (1945-1953 Presidential terms) born May 8, 1884-died December 26, 1972, went against his advisers and voted for Israel to be an accepted state-accepted through United Nations May 14, 1948. |
Assumptions have been erroneously made by the USA presidents that have been held by every president since Harry Truman.
1. They have thought that by distancing themselves from Israel, it would gain favor from the Arabs. 5 administrations have done this; Eisenhower, Nixon, Carter, George H.W. Bush and Obama. This has never brought favor of USA to Arabs. It has backfired and has produced more Arab demands.
2. They have thought that if they cooperate with Israel, they would lose any Arab favor. This has turned out to be false, for the Arabs never thought that their relationship with the USA was affected by the USA relationship with Israel.
3. They thought they had to solve the Palestinian issue first before the USA could transform the region or America's position in the region. It has been proven that if the Palestinian issue were to be solved tomorrow, all the other issues in the region would still be there.
"Ross is an American diplomat and author. He has served as the Director of Policy Planning in the State Department under President George H. W. Bush, the special Middle East coordinator under President Bill Clinton, and was a special adviser for the Persian Gulf and Southwest Asia (which includes Iran) to the former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton"
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| Jimmy Carter, Jr. 39th President, b: October 1, 1924, Still teaches Sunday School at his church, biased against Israel and for PLO |
In 2008, Time reported that a former colleague of Ross, former ambassador, Daniel Kurtzer, published a think-tank monograph containing anonymous complaints from Arab and American negotiators saying Ross was seen as biased towards Israel and not "an honest broker." According to this, if you see that Israel is in the right, you are biased and this is bad. You should only see that the Arabs are right. You are expected to take a side but not Israel's.
Ross is Jewish but hadn't been raised in much of a Jewish environment being his Jewish mother and Catholic husband raised him in an non-religious environment. He realized Israel's precarious position after the 1967 War. Finally we have had one American Jew who sees what has been happening, and his assumptions about the USA's positions proves to be correct after working with presidents for the past 27 years.
Mearsheimer and Walt 's book has been the most damning and incorrect book ever published about Israel and AIPAC. It is a travesty to history. Carter has also written damning books about Israel equally bad. He has interpreted his Christian ethics to be against Israel, probably following the replacement theory of some in that the Jews' place in this world has been replaced by them.
We have one Israel Lobby group, AIPAC, and I am a member, one of some of our 2% of Jews living in the USA with the other 98% of the population. A few AIPAC members take the time out of their busy schedules and their own money to go to Washington DC and go over bills affecting Israel with their senators. They are knowledgeable and know more about how things affect Israel than the senators who have to vote yeah or nay. These same senators are no doubt bombarded from people voicing the other side of the coin, and our AIPAC members hope that their information rings more true than the opposition; one big debate going on. At this same time, a new group, started or helped out by the billionaire, Soros, is working against AIPAC in blasting Israel while saying they are promoting Israel. Just reading what they are saying shows they are so extremely left in their ideas that they have left the Israel position long ago. " AIPAC works to build relationships with members of Congress from both sides of the aisle to promote the U.S.-Israel relationship."
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| Joe Biden, Vice President of USA |
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| Netanyahu and Obama |
To prove how groups are receiving speakers from Arab groups, I've also belonged to an Israel advocate group that has put together facts with a slide program for presentation to groups. My job was to phone ministers of churches who might be interested in hearing Israel's side of the problems. I was treated with such distain and with a no, and then I found out they were only hearing the Arab side and welcomed their speakers into their churches instead. Mearsheimer and Walt have a lot to learn as to the bombardment in this country of only one side of the Israel-Palestine situation. They haven't studied their history at all. That's why their book provoked howls of outrage from me and others. The impact of the Israel lobby on U.S. foreign policy, which doesn't always happen, comes from learning facts that cannot be disputed and that lies from their opposition are uncovered.
Every president since Harry S. Truman has made incorrect assumptions about how not backing Israel would be beneficial as he did after voting for its existence which was May 14, 1948. Even he had other expectations about the Middle East back then and how this would further their efforts in making important inroads-financially beneficial, most likely to the USA. That would include Dwight David Eisenhower, John Fitzgerald Kennedy, Lyndon Baines Johnson, Richard Milhous Nixon, Gerald Rudolph Ford, James Earl Carter, Jr, Ronald Wilson Reagan and Bush, Clinton, Bush and Obama, as I mentioned.
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| Trump, Grand Marshall in Israel parade in New York |
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| Ted Cruse |
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| Sanders and Clinton |
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| Hillary Clinton in Jerusalem 2012 |
False assumptions have been made about Jews
for a long time. Some people even thought that
we had horns, and this came from a famous statute of Moses by Michelangelo in Rome. Let's go for facts and not false assumptions from now on. The idea the artist had came from the horns of the Vulgate version of Exodus 34: which was mis-translated by Christians. (His face shone) was translated in horns. I don't know how people could fall for such an idiotic idea or why they didn't question it, but there were people who became peeping toms of Jews just to see those horns. Good grief! Though these 3 false assumptions are not so glaringly wrong as the horns we don't have, people should have questioned them before they became so ingrained in the society.
Resource: http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Politics-And-Diplomacy/Dennis-Ross-Next-US-administration-will-want-to-improve-ties-with-Israel-448356
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Ross
NuVenture Creations-USA-presidential chart, information
http://www.policyconference.org/article/confirmedSpeakers-AL.asp
http://www.allenbwest.com/2016/03/breaking-iran-fires-more-missiles-this-time-marked-with-chilling-message-for-obama-admin/
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/archive/index.php/t-300025.html
http://taylormarshall.com/2013/08/the-horns-of-moses-defending-michelangelos-horned-moses.html
"To prove how groups are receiving speakers from Arab groups, I've also belonged to an Israel advocate group that has put together facts with a slide program for presentation to groups. My job was to phone ministers of churches who might be interested in hearing Israel's side of the problems. I was treated with such distain and with a no, and then I found out they were only hearing the Arab side and welcomed their speakers into their churches instead. Mearsheimer and Walt has a lot to learn as to the bombardment in this country of only one side of the Israel-Palestine situation. They haven't studied their history at all. "
ReplyDeleteI so whole-heartedly agree with you, nadene. so very many these days, that name themselves as christians, do not know history and do not know the Bible they profess to believe. it is to their utter shame! and it makes me so sad to think how blind people are to what is undeniable in all these years, and the ramifications of such ignorance. they will answer if they do not wake up to the reality of what this mindset is bringing down upon the entire world. it is because i want to know God's word and the subsequent history among the people's on this earth in relation to what God has already said of times past, in our times today, and the upcoming future, that i know what you are reporting is absolutely true regarding israel's existence and standing in the world. i'm no einstein and i can know this! it is a deliberate choice to deny the truth over a long period of time now that has made people utterly stupid about what is threatening them also!
makes my head and heart reel! and makes me pray......
that i understand (to the best of my ability and ask guidance for more), does not make me better, but it does make me right because i know God will set the record straight.
we can be rest assured He is not slack concerning His promises, to israel, and to any whose trust is in what He has said.
....so many in the valley of decision as joel 3:14 tells us.....
Andre, your words brought tears to my eyes to know that you understand what we are going through. Thank G-d that there is such a person who has bothered to learn and is interested in her history. We can only hope and pray that somehow people will wake up-and soon.
ReplyDeleteAndre, your words brought tears to my eyes to know that you understand what we are going through. Thank G-d that there is such a person who has bothered to learn and is interested in her history. We can only hope and pray that somehow people will wake up-and soon.
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