tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1787272385367494897.post58929398786415310..comments2023-10-26T16:38:37.859-07:00Comments on Jewish Bubba: The 3rd Temple Plans of the Temple Institute in JerusalemNadene Goldfoothttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01654020384945801380noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1787272385367494897.post-80750211117773977432015-12-07T18:33:23.829-08:002015-12-07T18:33:23.829-08:00John, I'm not a Christian. That kind of langu...John, I'm not a Christian. That kind of language is found in the New Testament, not in the Torah or Tanakh. You just answered my question about what house you belong to. Judaism didn't die off with Jesus. It has continued and still is most relevant. Your idea of a Messiah and ours is quite different.Nadene Goldfoothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01654020384945801380noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1787272385367494897.post-21549776405015651962015-12-07T14:44:52.609-08:002015-12-07T14:44:52.609-08:00You did not answer my question Nadene.
Did any ...You did not answer my question Nadene. <br /><br />Did any of these famous rabbis you refer to have the Spirit of the living God come upon before they uttered their great prophetic revelations, such as did Moses, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Hosea, Joel, Amos, Obadiah, Micah, Nahum, Habakkuk, Zephaniah, Haggai, Zechariah or Malachi? Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08243418025106175908noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1787272385367494897.post-90308488257020858652015-12-07T12:19:02.941-08:002015-12-07T12:19:02.941-08:00So you are not aware of these famous rabbis? Just...So you are not aware of these famous rabbis? Just what house do you belong to? Rashi, a very famous rabbi, was a descendant of King David, by the way. Oh, I already said that. Nadene Goldfoothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01654020384945801380noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1787272385367494897.post-6099047985193537262015-12-07T11:33:14.141-08:002015-12-07T11:33:14.141-08:00First of all, the Tanakh clearly says that the Mes...First of all, the Tanakh clearly says that the Messiah will be from the line of David--the tribe of Judah.<br /><br />Second, did any of these rabbis you refer to have the Spirit of the living God come upon before they uttered their great prophetic revelations, such as did Moses, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Hosea, Joel, Amos, Obadiah, Micah, Nahum, Habakkuk, Zephaniah, Haggai, Zechariah or Malachi? As for me and my house, we will stick with the words of those who uttered them under the unction of the Spirit of God.<br /><br />By far the best understanding about the Messiah comes from Moses, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Hosea, Joel, Amos, Obadiah, Micah, Nahum, Habakkuk, Zephaniah, Haggai, Zechariah or Malachi--men who spoke under the unction of the Spirit of God. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08243418025106175908noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1787272385367494897.post-50669787748824824282015-12-06T21:48:13.798-08:002015-12-06T21:48:13.798-08:00And you, John Miller, can understand the Torah and...And you, John Miller, can understand the Torah and the other writings and their meanings better than our famous rabbis such as Rashi, the Rambam, the Vilna Gaon and such? Our history of Judaism is such that rabbis got together and discussed the meanings found in our writings. A Yeshiva does this, and students know and debate and bring out the facts that this rabbi said this about something, and what another rabbi said,etc, and they come to conclusions this way. So you're all upset because it has been said that we have had potential Messiahs (Mashiakh) born in each generation? What is your concept of the Messiah? To us, it is a human being capable of leadership; the anointed one; the ultimate deliverer, used in the Bible/Torah/Tanakh as an adjective referring to kings, etc, who have been anointed, therefore having Divine sanction and a special status, and I mentioned in the article that Stanley had the DNA showing the connection back to RASHI (very famous rabbi) who was connected to King David-a prerequisite. Also-if Stanley was to be the Moshiakh, he would have been this entity; but of course he wasn't. John, we Jews respect rabbis who are well versed and are universally well thought of among other rabbis above our own thoughts about the Torah, for they know a great deal more than we do, and if we want to be on that that level that they are, we study more with highly respected rabbis to learn what they know. Even in places like Portland, there are study groups. Remember, to us the Moshiakh is a man-not G-d, and it is a nice thought to know that when the time comes for the Moshiakh to appear, we will have a man ready for the position. We have experienced many false moshiakhs in our time already. Even Bar Kokhba was thought to be the Moshiakh at first. We've learned to not jump to conclusions, and I never said that Stanley, my 3rd cousin, was the Moshiakh, only that he could have been of his generation. Now, the most recent information I have read is that the Moshiakh will have the DNA haplogroup of J2 and that this line goes back to Zadok,a Cohen. You can read about that in my latest article, "The Many Bottlenecks Jews have had..." Nadene Goldfoothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01654020384945801380noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1787272385367494897.post-10349592872307435562015-12-06T19:20:33.426-08:002015-12-06T19:20:33.426-08:00Well Nadene, you're wrong. I did read it care...Well Nadene, you're wrong. I did read it carefully. If I want to learn about the building of the first Temple, I learn about it in the Tanakh. If I want to learn about the building of the second Temple, I learn about it in the Tanakh. If I want to learn about the building of the third Temple, I learn about it in the Tanakh. And if I want to learn about the Messiah, I learn about Him in the Tanakh--not from a rabbi, regardless of who the rabbi is. It is a travesty that you would put the words of a rabbi--any rabbi--above words of the holy Tanakh. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08243418025106175908noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1787272385367494897.post-68816889401133483202015-12-06T14:28:33.111-08:002015-12-06T14:28:33.111-08:00Did you read carefully? I think not. I said that...Did you read carefully? I think not. I said that "According to Maimonides, any Jew who starts rebuilding the Temple is a potential Messiah." Well, Stanley, you were a potential Messiah. They say in each generation there are potential Messiahs that are born.". Maimonides is not found in the Tanakh. He was born in 1135 and died in 1204. He reached Eretz Yisrael in 1165 and was also known as "Rambam. He was a philosopher, halakhist and mdedical writer, one of the most famous of our rabbis. The main idea of the article was also not Stanley but the 3rd Temple of which he was involved in the plans. Notice that the Arabs were all over reacting about the temple and were stabbing everyone because of it. Read my list of references at the end of the article to find where I found information. Nadene Goldfoothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01654020384945801380noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1787272385367494897.post-61219471182029153022015-12-06T14:13:44.169-08:002015-12-06T14:13:44.169-08:00Furthermore Nadene, where in the Tanakh can you po...Furthermore Nadene, where in the Tanakh can you possibly ever come up with even the faintest speculation that there is a Messiah in every generation? I have never read anything in the Tanakh that gives me the remotest idea that there could ever be such a thing. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08243418025106175908noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1787272385367494897.post-85136001218689354522015-12-06T14:08:20.068-08:002015-12-06T14:08:20.068-08:00Well Nadene, I have read the Tanakh many, many tim...Well Nadene, I have read the Tanakh many, many times over the past 37 years and Mr. Goldfoot--as wonderful of a man as he was, and as much good as he did, which was much more than most do or have done--still does NOT come anywhere NEAR fitting the description of the Messiah. I'm sure you've read the Tanakh--or least I would expect and hope that you would have. I challenge you (the next time you read it--which I hope you will) to read it keeping in mind, the entire time you are reading it, what the description of what the Messiah is.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08243418025106175908noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1787272385367494897.post-13663798994177734982015-12-06T09:17:06.460-08:002015-12-06T09:17:06.460-08:00Well, John Miller, in reply to your ROFLOL respons...Well, John Miller, in reply to your ROFLOL response, which means Rolling on the floor and laughing out loud, Stanley, who was born May 2, 1914, passed away on November 24, 2006. For all I know, he could have been one of the Messiah's from each generation. What is your reason for ROFLOL? No doubt Stanley was doing more for Israel than many others have been. He was the Chief of Intelligence for the Stern Group back in the days before 1948. He fought to help Israel to be created. Nadene Goldfoothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01654020384945801380noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1787272385367494897.post-38358579522461965132015-12-05T18:39:53.667-08:002015-12-05T18:39:53.667-08:00Re: Goldfoot as a potential Messiah?
ROFLOL!!!Re: Goldfoot as a potential Messiah?<br /><br />ROFLOL!!!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08243418025106175908noreply@blogger.com